Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Good God, Rei! We're in full agreement on something! :-) B. D. Well...except for the fact that I would add - ;-) - that for all its electronics, the F5 is still at heart a real camera, built like the proverbial brick house of excrement. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Rei Shinozuka Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:46 AM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Full circle with Nikons i am a bit partial to the f3, having a pair with md4s which were my main picture-takers before i got into leica m. as i recall, the f3 was considered somewhat daring for its time (1980) for having an electronically-controlled shutter and thereby being battery dependent (except for the manual 1/60 speed). technologically, it did have autoexposure, TTL flash, and LCD readouts and metering worked with all of the interchangable finders and screens. electronic shutter or no, the f3 is mechanically a beautiful machine-- just change the finder, or activate the mirror-lock up--it has a substantial feel. in my opinion, it's the last nikon that's more machine than computer. (ok, the fm2 and fm3 qualify too :-). - -rei On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:13:39AM -0400, bdcolen wrote: > The reason Nikon still has F3's for sale is the same reason that the R > line has been a financial dog for Leica - there are only about six > people out there these days in the market for a solid, reliable, > manual focus SLR any more. The F3 was and is a terrific camera - but > it came out at the wrong time in the evolution of Autofocus and auto > everything. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Don Dory > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] Full circle with Nikons > > > Ok guys and gals, > Nikon got caught with their pants down with the F3. I believe it came > out in 1983. Minolta brought out autofocus in about 1985. The F4 was > brought out in what 1987? If I recall correctly, most pros stuck with > their no battery required F2 as long as they could. So for the > majority of shooters, they either stayed with the old reliable F2 or > migrated to the F4 for autofocus and a far better integrated motor. > In summary, the F3 was the top model for Nikon for only about four > years. > > The reason Nikon still has F3's for sale is that no one will buy one > new. Shoot, you can hardly sell an F5 for any price above a grand. > > Don > dorysrus@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of > grduprey@rockwellcollins.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:09 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] Full circle with Nikons > > > Actually the F3 is still available from Nikon, but at $1300. > > Gene > > > > > > Mark Rabiner > > <mark@rabinergroup.com> To: > leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Sent by: cc: > > owner-leica-users@mejac.palo Subject: Re: > [Leica] Full circle with Nikons > -alto.ca.us > > > > > > 07/09/2003 12:20 PM > > Please respond to > > leica-users > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Herr wrote: > > > > Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > > > Nikons are very Leicalike. (Especially the F3) > > > > debatable... they use film and can be used to make pictures ... in > this > respect yes they are like Leicas. > > > > Doug Herr > > Birdman of Sacramento > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > -- > If feels like a classic. It is a classic. > It was in production for decades i think the only body in production > longer than the M6. It is not a camera to use if you do a lot of > flash. The hotshoe is off to the far side. It was a "flagship" camrea. > top of the line. When they both came out they were largely called "a > piece of junk" by their constituents. > > > Mark Rabiner > Portland, Oregon USA > http://www.rabinergroup.com > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com Ridgewood, New Jersey - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html