Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/01
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darkroom@ix.netcom.com (Austin Franklin)7/1/03
>I hate to sound litigious after reading such a shameful story, but as
>far as I understand it, legally, the security personnel had no legal right to
>detain you, and you legally could have simply left at any time.
>Otherwise, it is, believe it or not, kidnapping.
Perhaps true. However, it always begins as polite conversation. One must decide at which point one will walk away and off the grounds. Unfortunately, I chose to show him ID, which he took. My one serious mistake. Wonıt be made again.
>Well, legally (again, as far as I know), they have no authority to do
>anything, but, get a policeperson to enforce any laws that you are
>breaking.
Which they did. And so we wait and we wait for the law enforcement rep.
>The ONLY thing they can do is ASK you to do or not do something, and if you fail to comply, they >can ASK you to leave. You CAN refuse, and then they have to get a police person
>to remove you for trespassing...but if it's public land, then that doesn't
>work as far as I know, as you're not legally trespassing.
Reality: Nuanced variations of all of these events and potentialities were going on, along with personnel changes, which required new conversations with new players, while the fellow with my ID disappeared.
>did...and who will simply go on, doing what they do...with no
>repercussion.
Iım researching the parkıs rules and regs and writing to the local press. Weıll see.
Fond regards,
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