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Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] Slide mounts/scanner feeders/workflow
From: "Jim Laurel" <jplaurel@nwlink.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:19:03 -0700
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Sounds like we have arrived at the same conclusion, Tina.  I have been
scanning since January, and can finally see the light at the end of the long
tunnel.  Scanning is such an incredible drag.  I use iView, which makes
captioning a breeze.  Plus, you can do it after each days' shooting, so the
information is alot fresher in your mind.

You are going to like the 10D - alot.  It is an incredible machine at a very
attractive price point.  Now, I can go straight from the camera into iView,
get everything annotated and filed, sent out, printed or whatever.  And no
captioning with sticky labels!!!  :-)

However, there is a dark side.  First of all, it looks different from film.
The photos are clean to the point of being antiseptic.  To me they kind of
look like really high res video.  They're sharp, alright.  And the colors
are true, but...  Anyway, it's hard to pin down.  But that decadent, rich,
liquid look I'm acustomed to with my M cameras is nowhere to be found.
Maybe one day I'll figure it out and make a "Leica look" Photoshop action.
One thing that is taking some getting used to is not shooting at very wide
apertures like can with an M camera.  In the Canon world, f2.8 is considered
fast, and many of thier lenses just aren't very good wide open.  :-{

To get the field of view of a 35mm lens, which I often use, I have to use a
20mm.  With the 20, everything is in focus all the time, even wide open.  It
depends on your preference, of course, but to me such extreme depth of field
is a distinct disadvantage.  The only way I'll be able to get the shallow
DOF look I prefer would be with the EOS 1Ds, and as you know, it is huge.

Even so, I'm willing to spring for a 1Ds, but am concerned about whether
Canon will update it relatively soon, as it is coming up on 1 year old.
Coming from a technology background, it makes sense to me that Canon would
release a minor upgrade around 12-18 months into the model's life cycle that
addresses issues learned from having the camera in the hands of
photographers for a while.  When that happens, I will feel comfortable
dropping the $7.5k for one.  The 10D will make a good second body.

One more thing.  Beware the 17-35 f2.8L on these EOS digital cameras.  Mine
exhibits pretty severe chromatic aberration at all apertures up to f8, and
at all focal lengths, even with the 10D's 40% crop.  I understand Canon has
made significant improvements in the 16-35.  As an alternative for now, I am
using the EF 20mm, which is a pretty well corrected lens with little visible
distortion.  Unfortunately, it is not the equal of the Elmarit-M 21 ASPH.

Has anyone heard rumors about an update to the 1Ds?

- --Jim

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Manley" <images@InfoAve.Net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] Slide mounts/scanner feeders/workflow


> At 07:05 PM 6/28/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >So, I've just spent the entire day sitting in front of the computer
scanning
> >images from a 1999 Spain shoot.  I'm getting around 1 misfeed per 5
slides,
> >and 1 out of 4 slightly misfocused.  And once the scanning is done, I get
to
> >caption and label them.  What fun!  Digital is looking better all the
time.
> >I think film shot in an M camera is going to be a "gourmet" medium for me
> >going forward.
> >
> >--Jim
>
> Amen, Jim.  My Canon D10 will be here Monday and I expect to spend much
> less time scanning and labeling.  Still have to file and caption
digitally,
> but it's a much faster process!  My M7 will still be used for personal B&W
> work, but everything else is going digital.  I waited for Leica but I
can't
> wait until 2005!!
>
> Tina
>
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> http://www.tinamanley.com
>
> photos available from:
> http://www.pdiphotos.com
> http://www.mira.com
> http://www.agpix.com
> http://www.newscom.com
>
>
>
>
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