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Subject: RE: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
From: "bdcolen" <>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:22:16 -0400

Did someone claim there was a "message" in the work? I missed that one.
Given that the work is about composition and form, I think message is
the last thing one would be looking for.

- -----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Slobodan
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First

Obviously I'm not shallow enough, as I don't _see_the underlying message
that you claim is in the work. The flip side of this could be whether
the work is that easily accessible that any one can tap into its
brilliant message, and I'm just a lost blinded soul buffeted on a
desolate tundra, ever locked in my unimaginative prison. If anything,
his work strikes me as a well articulated snapshots. Last semester, I
showed my students his book on photo portraiture. We flipped through the
pages one at a time. Then, I flipped through the pages like one would
through a carton flip book, to show the sameness throughout the work.
I'm sure someone else would see it as a stylistic continuity, and I
won't argue with that. But really Buzz, this physiological state of
arousal of yours is somewhat unseemly, over what is just another guy's
work earning a living with his camera. 
Slobodan Dimitrov

Buzz Hausner wrote:
> Slobodan, your hubris is absolutely breathtaking.  I for one can say 
> that you have missed much in Cartier-Bresson's "presentation, style, 
> content, analysis, whatever..." or else I have to assume that your 
> ability to see is severely limited.  Another possibility is that you 
> enjoy taking stands which you know to be provocative, but it seems to 
> be in this case that deep down you are really very shallow.
>         Buzz Hausner
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of Slobodan

> Dimitrov
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:16 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] HCB Did It All First
> I wouldn't go so far that he originated the visual syntax for 35mm. I 
> think a little jaunt down history's memory lane could just show other 
> wise. I look at a lot of work, in the original as often as possible, 
> and no I can't say that I missed much in his presentation, style, 
> content analysis, what ever.... But then, this all rather subjective. 
> For myself, I get considerably more from being in the presence of the 
> portraiture of the Roman Republic than from HCB.
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> Buzz Hausner wrote:
> >
> > You have got to be joking, Slobodan!  What is in the work of H.C.-B.
> is
> > the origination of the entire vocabulary of 35mm photography! 
> > Definitely NOT a one trick pony and I have to think that anyone who 
> > views the body of H.C.-B.'s work as such is unable or unwilling to
> look
> > below the surface of what he sees!
> >
> >         Buzz
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