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Subject: RE: Some Perspective...was .Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade
From: "Buzz Hausner" <buzz.hausner@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 11:03:41 -0400

Aw, come on, B.D., a Leica isn't a TOOL, wherever did you that silly
idea!

	Buzz

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of bdcolen
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:43 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: Some Perspective...was .Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade

Good for you, Gary, I'm glad you're content. And if you ran the list, I
guess I might consider your advice and unsubscribe. But since you
don't...

I've been shooting since the early 60's - not that I know what you're
comment about how long you've been shooting had to do with anything ;-)
- - I have shot with M2s, M3s, M4ps and M4-2s, and now M6s and M6TTls-  I
too used a Contax G1 for a while and though it has terrific glass,
didn't like the fact that it is basically a P&S with interchangeable
lenses. I now depend upon my M6s and M6TTLs to earn part of my living.
They are my TOOLS. I have NO emotional investment in them or in Leica as
a company. I think the glass is terrific, and I like using rangefinders.
However - I find that the flare problem occasionally costs me images.
And that is GD inexcusable in a $2000-just-for-the-body camera. It is
particularly inexcusable to have Leica turn around and finally, after
what, 20 years, find a fix for the problem that they created - as the
problem doesn't exist in the M2s and M3s, and charge as much to fix it
as one might pay for a user M2 or M3 - or for that matter an M4-2 or
M4p.

Does that make me a "malcontent?" No, it makes me a        off consumer.


B. D.
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Gary
Williams
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:27 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Some Perspective...was .Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <DennisKT5D@aol.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] M6 viewfinder upgrade


>   B. D. is absolutely right. Ignore an obvious problem, limit the 
> fixable cameras, and CHARGE you for the fix to boot. One more reason 
> (among
several)
> not to buy Leica.

B.D., Dennis and other malcontents

If you guys don't like Leica you can unsubscribe from the list and save
the rest of us from your whining.  I for one do not seek perfection or
nirvana or whatever it is that you don't seem to be able to get from
owning and using the gear and belonging to the list.  Intelligent
dialogue and disagreement are one thing, but my index finger gets stiff
sometimes from deleting your negative and insipid emails.

I have been shooting since the late 1970's, mostly Contax SLR, and after
a brief and frustrating flirtation last year with a Contax G2 (now
that's a piece of tricked up electronic nonsense to complain about, you
call that thing a rangefinder, what a waste of wonderful Zeiss glass) I
am delighted with my M7, M2 and handful of Leica lenses, 21mm CV, 24mm
ASPH, 35mm ASPH,
90mm Elmarit.   I have the highly portable, unobtrusive, intelligent,
low
light shooting friendly system I have been looking for since I started
in this game back in the 1970's.  Yea, Leica costs an arm and a leg,
which created a real obstacle to ownership for me until I reached my
40's. On the cost of ownership perhaps we all have a complaint. But if
you spent a little more time examining your motives and your desires,
and a little less time complaining maybe you could figure out where it
is that you really want to be with this stuff.  For most of us on the
list it's a hobby or passion to pursue and to enjoy and not a vocation
to constantly fret about.

Gary


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