Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/24

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Was Found a pre-owned MP already Now Tax stuff
From: "Marshall Hunt" <huntmc2@fuse.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:17:02 -0400
References: <MNELJONCHOKNFLMBFJCCEELFCBAA.kitmc@acmefoto.com>

All tax collections rely on the voluntary acquiescence of the taxpayers.
Ohio relies on my honesty.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kit McChesney | acmefoto" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 13:27
Subject: RE: [Leica] Was Found a pre-owned MP already Now Tax stuff


> Marshall--
>
> Now tell me, how does Ohio know when you buy something from me? And what
if
> you don't "use" it? Good lord. I'm not advocating dodging taxes, but a
"use
> tax" sounds to me like good enough reason to start living in a bunker,
> wearing olive drab, and throwing boxes of tea into Boston Harbor! And I'm
a
> flaming liberal, too!
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Marshall
> Hunt
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:59 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Was Found a pre-owned MP already Now Tax stuff
>
>
> In other words, IT DEPENDS ON THE STATE. Ohio imposes a "use tax" on any
> article of personal property which is used in the State of Ohio.  I have
to
> pay 6% on anything I buy, whether or not it was bought in Ohio.  I can
take
> a deduction for any sales tax I pay to any place, so in theory, if I buy a
> camera in Kentucky and pay 5% sales tax, I still owe 1% to Ohio. If I buy
> from Kit, I have to report the full 6% on my income tax return, since Kit
> doesn't charge me the tax. I report the use tax owed on Line 16 of my
annual
> Ohio Income Tax return.    Kentucky has a separate schedule for use tax
> calculations.  Michigan has a use tax as well.  Dante is a lawyer, and he
> can damned well look it up.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kit McChesney | acmefoto" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 11:41
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Was Found a pre-owned MP already Now Tax stuff
>
>
> > If you buy it from a dealer in NY in person, you will have to prove that
> you
> > are not a New York resident. Usually shipping outside the state will
take
> > care of that. If B&H has no business presence in Michigan (I assume they
> > don't), then you pay no tax.
> >
> > In other words, "RIGHT."
> >
> > Kit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Dante
> > Stella
> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 9:02 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Was Found a pre-owned MP already Now Tax stuff
> >
> >
> >
> > So what happens if you live in Michigan (which has a "use" tax) and you
> > buy a camera at B&H in person in NYC.  You then have it shipped, thereby
> > avoiding NY tax.  The item arrives in Michigan.
> >
> > It wasn't subject to NY tax because it was not for use in NY.  It is not
> > subject to Michigan's use tax, because the item was not purchased "from"
> > Michigan.
> >
> > Right or wrong?
> >
> > ------------
> > Dante Stella
> >
> > NO ARCHIVE
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Austin Franklin wrote:
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > > Law here in PA is simple.  If the vendor has a brick and mortar
> > > > operation in
> > > > the state the consumer pays tax.  I.e., you buy something
> > > > considered taxable
> > > > from COMP-USA or Sears for example over the internet or thru the
> > catalog,
> > > > you pay sales tax on the item.
> > >
> > > Agreed, IF the vendor has a "presence" IN the state you have the item
> > > delivered to.
> > >
> > > > If you go to a border state like Delaware
> > > > that has no sales tax but have it delivered, like furniture, you pay
> the
> > > > tax.
> > >
> > > I'm not clear what the scenario you are citing here is.  If you buy in
> > state
> > > A, and IF the store OWNS the delivery vehicles, and you have it
> delivered
> > to
> > > state B, then yes, you do pay tax, but if it's delivered
independently,
> > and
> > > the selling store has no "presence" in state B, no, you do not.
> > >
> > > > On the other hand if I buy something from Kit or Pat, they are
> > > > not obligated
> > > > to charge me tax because neither Pat or Kit has a presence in PA.
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> > >
> > > > However,
> > > > to follow the law, I should then calculate the tax and send it
> > > > along to the
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Is that really a "law"?
> > >
> > > Austin
> > >
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