Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/15

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The truth about the Leica M5
From: "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:07:33 -0600
References: <61E30722-5689-11D7-BBDE-000393802534@mac.com> <002e01c2eae7$77f8bc50$9600000a@Familie>

Here's my opinion of the M-5 after owning one for about two years.  Compared
to the earlier M-series, the M-5 was an oversize, clumsy effort to field a
Leica with a built-in lightmeter. The silly moveable lightmeter arm that
smacked the back of the two wide angle lenses was always a nuisance. After
years of living with the M-3's and M-4's, the M-5 was like getting out of an
elegant 911 Porsche and into a Volkswagen "BEAST."

Therefore, I am in 100% agreement with B.D.'s assessment of the M-5. If the
"THING" had not been such a clumsy design, and had been as well received as
the earlier M series, it would still be marketed.  There were just not
enough Leica fans that wanted a massive 35mm camera that hung from one end
like a Kodak.

Don R.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo Hufener" <ljhuf@tiscali.nl>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] The truth about the Leica M5


> Please look in your ,mirror to see un ugly pig and stop that irrational
> snobby nonsense
> about the perfect M5.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Howard" <mvhoward@mac.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:56 AM
> Subject: [Leica] The truth about the Leica M5
>
>
> > B.D. Colen wrote:
> >
> > > What Leitz was unhappy with was the reactionary
> > > Leica buyers who didn't know what to make of the M5. Yes, it's bigger
> > > than the M4 was - but not by very much. The real curse of the M5 was
> > > that it had an internal meter - a very good one as a matter of fact -
> > > and the all mechanical Leica aficionados just weren't ready for the
> > > built-in meter at that point, nor were they ready for a "bigger"
> > > camera.
> >
> > You're missing the point, just as Leica did at the time.  Leica
> > rangefinders are not rational choices.  They are emotional choices.
> > The Leica M5 was, is, and always will be, an ugly pig, an aethetical
> > abomination.  This is even more apparent because of the exquisite
> > beauty of the lines of the old LTM cameras and their updated cousins in
> > the M2, M3, and M4.  I don't care how damn good the M5 is as a camera,
> > how great the meter is, or how insignificant the size increase is.  The
> > fact remains: it's fugging uckly.
> >
> > It's as though Porsche had decided to build a five-door estate version
> > of the 911.
> >
> > These days, of course, Leica has got the point almost too well: they no
> > longer make cameras, only fashion accessories.  Take a look at Stephen
> > Gandy's site at the list of "special edition" M6s.  QED.
> >
> > (Then, of course, we have the Cayenne.  Let's not mention that any
> > more.)
> >
> > M.
> >
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In reply to: Message from Martin Howard <mvhoward@mac.com> ([Leica] The truth about the Leica M5)
Message from "Leo Hufener" <ljhuf@tiscali.nl> (Re: [Leica] The truth about the Leica M5)