Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/12
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Sorry you feel that way, Johnny - The project/book in question was
described as photographs by people who are BLIND - not losing their
sight; not "legally blind." But BLIND - i.e., without sight.
That being the case, I do not regret what I wrote, and stand by it.
Cheers
B. D.
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Johnny
Deadman
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:49 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
BDs dumbest post ever. He'll regret it in the morning.
BD, it's not a question of political correctness. I have often pondered
the loss of my sight. Not all blind photographers are blind - can't see
nuthin - blind. Many have some percentage of their vision. As far as I
am concerned, if I became stone blind I would find it hard to continue
to photograph BUT until that point I would continue. So long as there
is some potential for feedback, the project has merit. My eyesight now
is not so great but it doesn't seem to have affected my ability to take
pix.
I think that once the feedback loop is broken, one would be less a
photographer than a producer/director. Incidentally, I have no problem
whatsoever with working as a film director while blind.
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 07:57 PM, bdcolen wrote:
> Okay, I can't help myself...I am going to be totally politically
> incorrect and ROFLOL! (And, yes, I've seen the book of photographs by
> blind "photographers."
>
> I know: I'm cruel. I have no imagination, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get
> a grip, folks! Alternatively sighted people are BLIND. They CAN NOT
> SEE. Photography is a VISUAL medium. It requires VISION.
>
> I don't care if a blind person can point an autofocus camera at a
> subject he or she hears and "take a picture." An Ape can do the same
> thing, and I am not going to take Ape photography seriously either.
>
> I know, I know, there are a bunch of Thai elephants that paint and a
> bunch of nuts who pay allot of money for the paintings.
>
> I'll tell you something, when I lose the remainder of my hearing - I
> now
> suffer from moderate hearing loss in one ear and a severe lost in the
> other, and wear two hearing aids, I am NOT going to apply for a job as
> a
> freaking MUSIC critic! ;-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
> McChesney | acmefoto
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:37 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> Speaking of photographers with poor eyesight, or even more amazing,
> photographers who are legally or functionally blind, Aperture just
> published last year a gorgeous book on the subject of blind
> photographers, titled appropriately, Shooting Blind. It is a moving
> volume, and poses some interesting questions about how we see, and
> what we see. There are many blind photographers ... Evgen Bavcar, Flo
> Fox, Gerardo Nigenda, among others. Bavcar has some interesting things
> to say about the differences between the visual, and the visible.
>
> "My task is the reunion of the visible and the invisible worlds;
> photography allows me to pervert the established method of perception
> amongst those who see and those who don't." ... and ... "Each photo I
> create must be perfectly ordered in my head before I shoot. I hold the
> camera to my mouth in order to photograph those I speak to. Autofocus
> helps me, but I can manage on my own: it is simple, my hands measure
> the distance and the rest is achieved by the desire for images that
> inhabits
> me."
>
> I suspect that even with their visual difference ("seeing" differently
> from most of the rest of the world) that not all blind or visually
> impaired photographers use autofocus ... focus is not necessarily the
> requisite hallmark of a photographic image. Don't we use the unfocused
> as a tool of expression? What about bokeh? (Thanks, Mark R!)
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John
> Collier
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:27 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> I used to agree with Doug but have since run across a few people who
> have such poor eyesight they need auto focus. Mind you that is not
> very many people for the plethora of AF cameras out there...
>
> No plans for AF here,
>
> John Collier
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Douglas Herr wrote:
>
>> lea <lea@whinydogpress.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be first in line to have one....
>>
>> The combination of an APO lens and an SL, SL2, R8 or R9 viewfinder
>> makes focussing too easy to make AF worth discussing (IMHO).
>
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