Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/12
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Beethoven was deaf in his final years
simon
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From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:57 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
> Okay, I can't help myself...I am going to be totally politically
> incorrect and ROFLOL! (And, yes, I've seen the book of photographs by
> blind "photographers."
>
> I know: I'm cruel. I have no imagination, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get a
> grip, folks! Alternatively sighted people are BLIND. They CAN NOT SEE.
> Photography is a VISUAL medium. It requires VISION.
>
> I don't care if a blind person can point an autofocus camera at a
> subject he or she hears and "take a picture." An Ape can do the same
> thing, and I am not going to take Ape photography seriously either.
>
> I know, I know, there are a bunch of Thai elephants that paint and a
> bunch of nuts who pay allot of money for the paintings.
>
> I'll tell you something, when I lose the remainder of my hearing - I now
> suffer from moderate hearing loss in one ear and a severe lost in the
> other, and wear two hearing aids, I am NOT going to apply for a job as a
> freaking MUSIC critic! ;-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
> McChesney | acmefoto
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:37 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> Speaking of photographers with poor eyesight, or even more amazing,
> photographers who are legally or functionally blind, Aperture just
> published last year a gorgeous book on the subject of blind
> photographers, titled appropriately, Shooting Blind. It is a moving
> volume, and poses some interesting questions about how we see, and what
> we see. There are many blind photographers ... Evgen Bavcar, Flo Fox,
> Gerardo Nigenda, among others. Bavcar has some interesting things to say
> about the differences between the visual, and the visible.
>
> "My task is the reunion of the visible and the invisible worlds;
> photography allows me to pervert the established method of perception
> amongst those who see and those who don't." ... and ... "Each photo I
> create must be perfectly ordered in my head before I shoot. I hold the
> camera to my mouth in order to photograph those I speak to. Autofocus
> helps me, but I can manage on my own: it is simple, my hands measure the
> distance and the rest is achieved by the desire for images that inhabits
> me."
>
> I suspect that even with their visual difference ("seeing" differently
> from most of the rest of the world) that not all blind or visually
> impaired photographers use autofocus ... focus is not necessarily the
> requisite hallmark of a photographic image. Don't we use the unfocused
> as a tool of expression? What about bokeh? (Thanks, Mark R!)
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John
> Collier
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:27 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> I used to agree with Doug but have since run across a few people who
> have such poor eyesight they need auto focus. Mind you that is not very
> many people for the plethora of AF cameras out there...
>
> No plans for AF here,
>
> John Collier
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Douglas Herr wrote:
>
> > lea <lea@whinydogpress.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd be first in line to have one....
> >
> > The combination of an APO lens and an SL, SL2, R8 or R9 viewfinder
> > makes focussing too easy to make AF worth discussing (IMHO).
>
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