Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Get back to me when you get the mess cleaned up and use a Hexar for an extended period. I dare ya. Patrick - --- Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net> wrote: > Pat > > The sound you hear is of me barfing. > > When you have used a Leica for X years, any other > camera > may feel strange, and vice versa. I had used a > Contax I and > II for many years before I owned a Leica, and > believe me, > the Leica felt weird until I got used to it. > Everything turned > the wrong way! The same dislocation occurred when I > went to a Nikon F2 for SLR work. A little time, and > alles ist in ordnung. > > Jerry > > Jerry > > Patrick Jelliffe wrote: > > > At the risk of starting an intersine spat > regarding > > the discussion of intellectual property that may > not > > have had the permission of the author to be posted > > here... > > > > The best experience I had with a Hexar was zone > > focusing, because I could never focus well with > that > > finder. Motor drive is sweet, as is the AE, but I > was > > frustrated most of the time when focusing > critically, > > wide open and close--a nightmare. Shutter lag also > > frustrating, and the noise of the advance. Had the > > lens mount shimmed for the back focus problem, and > > there was some improvement, but still not up to > > snuff.. Sold the first RF, then about a year > later > > thought about buying another, because you want to > like > > it, "it's so full of features". > > > > A LHSA member invited me over to look at an RF he > was > > selling for a friend. Before we got to the sale, > he > > showed me his amazing collection of screw mount > > Leicas, as well as several M's he'd CLA'd. I was > in > > heaven, with SHNOO's on the SM cameras, and > Leicavits > > on the M's. Everything adjusted to perfection. > And > > yes, with every model, my hands fell naturally on > the > > contrals, and it was intuitive. I felt like I was > in > > the middle of a harem. > > > > Then, he handed me the Hexar, and it was a > no-brainer > > to pass on it immediately. LHSA guy just smiled. > Lots > > of bells and whistles, but it felt like the > automatic > > transmission 4 cylinder economy car that was the > last > > car left when I landed at midnight in a snowstorm > in > > Denver. Yeah, it'll get you there, but so would > > walking. Gimmie the BMW 3.0cs with dual Webers > and 5 > > speed. I have to agree with Erwin on this one, > and I > > think he truly attempted to be objective with the > > Konica. I WANTED to like it. The sine qua non of > > Leica is spiritual fervor, and cannot be > explained. > > > > Patrick > > > > > > --- "Richard F. Man" <richard@imagecraft.com> > wrote: > > > So what do you y'all think of this editorial > from > > > Dante's site: > > > www.dantestella.com. Does any of you have > experience > > > similar to Erwin's? I > > > think it this is just shilling from Erwin, but > then > > > what do I know? Of > > > course he wrote something equally dramatic for > the > > > new MP experience too. > > > So... thoughts? As usual, I suspect it has been > > > discussed before, but would > > > be interesting to hear the thoughts now given > the M7 > > > and the new MP.... > > > > > > > > > http://www.dantestella.com/technical/rangefinder.html: > > > Quote from another website, I am sure it is from > > > Erwin Puts' site > > > somewhere, as I was mightily intrigued and > confused > > > when I ran into it > > > myself -- // richard > > > *** > > > — "When you close your eyes and pick up the > Leica > > > and the Hexar several > > > times, the difference in feeling and haptics > > > emerges. When you hold the > > > Leica, your thumb slides behind the advance > lever > > > and your finger lays on > > > the shutter release button, which is sharp as a > > > trigger. This simple and > > > intuitive act signifies to the brain a state of > > > alert attention and you > > > fall into the mood of a hunter or an active > > > sportsperson anticipating the > > > moves of the other players. When holding the > Hexar, > > > both hands hold the > > > body and wen your finger touches the release > button, > > > there is no trigger > > > effect. The finger just rests there and you do > not > > > get any feedback from > > > the body. So you switch almost automatically > into a > > > more passive state of > > > mind and allow the camera to work for you. That > is > > > easy to do as the > > > automatic functions of the camera (exposure, > film > > > transport, motorwinder) > > > are so well executed that you start to rely on > them > > > and even transfer > > > control to them. In fact you are starting to > become > > > an operator of the > > > camera, adjusting the wheels and not the driver > who > > > forces the camera to do > > > as he wants it to act." > > > > > > And here's Dante's editorial remark: > > > *** > > > — Whoa, Nelly! The above-statement was written > by a > > > noted Leica expert in > > > relation to two cameras that take the same > lenses > > > and have exactly the same > > > type viewfinder and focusing. Personally, I > would > > > like to see the EEGs of > > > people using Leicas and Hexar RFs before I > swallow a > > > statement like that. > > > While the writer is normally very organized and > > > scientific in his methods, > > > I can't help but conclude that this statement is > > > probably the clearest > > > proof that Leica (Leica, not other brands of > similar > > > equiment) is a > > > religion. Isn't a camera supposed to work for > you?! > > > Ifyou want to talk > > > haptics and concentration, there is nothing that > > > breaks the concentration > > > of a left-eyed shooter faster than putting you > right > > > thumb in your right > > > eye while winding an M3. Talk about tactile. I'd > > > rather take the shot and > > > forget about the "experience" of taking the > picture. > > > > > > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com> > > > <http://www.dragonsgate.net/mailman/listinfo> > > > On-line orders, support, and listservers > available > > > on web site. > > > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, > > > please include all previous > > > replies in your msgs. ] > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html