Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Actually, Patrick, you guess wrong at just about every point. Total hours spent per patient comes to between forty and eighty, depending on the length of labor. Malpractice insurance runs about $80,000 per year. Average medical rents per doctor here in the Boston area are about $36,000 per year. Staff to support a single doctor; about $192,000 per year. There are, of course, many other expenses. Nota bene, that I said in my post, TWICE, that I am not asking anyone to feel sorry for or take pity on doctors. HOWEVER, the point of my posts was not to ask if a doctor should be able to afford an M7. My point is for each of us to ask the value of our cameras in terms of other expenses we face in life. A level of introspection of which some of us, obviously, are incapable. Buzz - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Patrick Jelliffe Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Is a Good Used M6TTL Worth More Than...? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the gross income for 10 hours total, (pre and post natal care and the delivery), comes to $2,000 or so? At $125,000/year for insurance, and a 55 hours work week, (just guessing), and four weeks off, (low guess), the insurance costs come to $47.35/hour. Gross income of 528K--After insurance we're at 152.65/hour or 400K/year. A lease on an office and office staff salaries: 150K/year. Now we're down to 250k, before taxes, but with some big deductions. You all are doing fine, and I'm not going to lose any sleep wondering if you can afford an M7. :0) Patrick - --- Frank Farmer <frankandaubrey@mindspring.com> wrote: > Indeed, > > Add that to the medical malpractice insurance rates > of between $100,000.00 and $150,000.00 per year for > an OB/GYN (at least here in the litigation hotbed of > MS) and that M7 gets further and further away unless > you can see more and more patients. > > Frank > -------Original Message------- > From: Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net> > Sent: 03/01/03 08:41 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: [Leica] Is a Good Used M6TTL Worth More > Than...? > > > > > I certainly don't ask anyone to feel sorry for > physicians. However, you > may want to consider the financial status of the > profession. For > instance, an obstetrician will provide over thirty > weeks of care for a > pregnant woman. This care will include ten to > twelve office visits of > between fifteen minutes and a half hour, at the end > of which the doctor > will deliver the baby, perhaps after being roused at > three am to spend > many hours with the patient before the delivery. > The patient may > require surgical care to repair any torn tissue or > even a hemorrhage. > After the birth, the patient will be seen for three > more office visits. > For all of this care, the physician will be > reimbursed by an insurance > company an amount substantially less than the cost > of an M7 body and > only slightly more than the cost of a good used M6 > TTL. Not that the > doctor gets to keep all of that money...after paying > for malpractice > insurance, rent, staff, supplies, et cetera. > > Again, I am not suggesting pity for the doctor, but > one might get a > different perspective by weighing the cost of our > cameras against the > value of our medical care. > > Buzz Hausner > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On > Behalf Of animal > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:24 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] OR photography and what can > really happen > > I,d suspect that there are other reasons for speed. > There might be a limit how long surgery can last > anyway. > Everybody makes mistakes constantly. > Even though results of mistakes vary. > You can not blame people,s poor design. > You just have to device procedures to minimize > mistakes. > It,s a very interesting complex subject human > factors. > The highest number of accidents occur in the home > when people make tea. > When distracted it,s very easy to boil two times the > amount of water and > at > the second to an allready full teapot which can > result in horrible burns > for > kids below the counter. > While in the past research focused on aviation and > the nuclear > industries > research has shown the complexity and is now > focusing on the more common > household accidents. > simon > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see <a target=_blank > href="http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html">http://mejac. palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html</a> > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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