Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] GLUE & Tele-Elmarit element etching
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:51:39 -0800
References: <20030227231758.49749.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>

Pat

I have that humidor.  Converted from an older Leica
wood presentation box!  But it is now for cigars.

Jerry

Patrick Jelliffe wrote:

> That dry climate of SoCal has its price.  Maybe a
> Leica humidor would help...:0)
>
> Patrick
>
> Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>
> > Speaking of Leica glue; at my local Leica dealer, I
> > spotted a brand
> > new R-6.2 with the leather peeling off the back!
> > The owner told me
> > it was caused by the fluorescent lighting.  I said
> > "Really???"  He
> > showed me two M6ttl's with the leather shrinking to
> > form a gap in
> > front.   Have any of you heard of this phenomenon?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Bill Satterfield wrote:
> >
> > > Steve, the source of my info was the LUG and the
> > LEG.  Please check the
> > > archives. I believe your web site even mentions
> > this problem. These
> > > postings also indicate that Leica has no idea of
> > the cause or why this
> > > happens. I purchased a TE that had an etching on
> > the rear element.
> > > Called Leica, they said could not be repaired sent
> > the lens back. Then
> > > when I bought the other TE, I had 10 days to
> > return it. I sent it to
> > > Leica overnight. They examined it, gave me the all
> > OK and overnighted it
> > > back to me. In recall that there was no official
> > explanation from Leica
> > >  on this problem. I do not know the  source of the
> > info supplied by the
> > > LUG and LEG members. I am sure if you check the
> > the archives and
> > > identify these people, you could ask them. I feel
> > sure you saw some of
> > > the posts but I do not  recall if you questioned
> > the source at the time.
> > > The info about the glue indicated Leica changed
> > the glue when they
> > > returned to Germany. I guess, looking back,
> > everything was hearsay. Just
> > > like all the  posts are on the LUG. Was there some
> > reason you are
> > > raising the question at this time? Please advise.
> > I guess all knowledge
> > > is second hand except OJT
> > >
> > > Stephen Gandy wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Bill,
> > > >
> > > >Could you give all the details possible about the
> > glue sometimes causing the
> > > >etching on the rear elements of the Canadian TE?
> > > >
> > > >with all their personnel changes over the years,
> > today's Leica company
> > > >apparently has no memory of the matter, nor of
> > its cause.
> > > >
> > > >I have seen the TE etching problem about six
> > times, but was always left
> > > >speculating about the cause.
> > > >
> > > >who was the source of your info at Leica at the
> > time?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > > >Stephen Gandy
> > > >
> > > >Bill Satterfield wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have one of the the last production runs of
> > the TE. Was made after
> > > >>the manufacturing of the lens was moved from
> > Canada to Germany. Has a
> > > >>high serial number for that run of lens. I
> > bought it from the original
> > > >>owner He found it several years after they quit
> > making it on a dealers
> > > >>shelf in Spain. Was and is now, like new. I
> > purchased a 12575 lens hood
> > > >>for it. They changed the type of glue at that
> > time. This eliminated the
> > > >>problem of etching on the rear elements. I
> > really like the lens I have
> > > >>not noted any flare problems. Maybe I am missing
> > it. How can you tell
> > > >>flare? What should I look for?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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In reply to: Message from Patrick Jelliffe <pbjbike@yahoo.com> (Re: [Leica] GLUE & Tele-Elmarit element etching)