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Subject: RE: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R.
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:25:27 -0500

Boy, does that send chills somewhere and make what hair I have left
standup and take notice. ;-) I'd love to watch in real time as someone
else got stents, but my own - I don't think so. :-)

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:11 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark
R.


BD

Yes, there are even more new advances since my stent installation, which
I watched in real time on a wide screen X-ray while it was being done.

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> Boy, I hope the medical info. in that book is dated - King had the 
> surgery in '82 and the book came out a decade ago... ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry 
> Lehrer
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:29 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to 
> Mark R.
>
> BD
>
> You are a man after my own heart!  Don Rickles would be proud to know 
> you.
>
> Speaking of hearts, I just started re-reading the book you wrote for 
> Larry King on his heart attacks.  Since the time that I first read it,

> I had my own MI which resulted in a stent installation.  5 years ago, 
> and no problems.
>
> My cardiologist at UCSD said that a tremendous amount of progress has 
> been made since that book was written.
>
> Jerry
>
> bdcolen wrote:
>
> > Greg - Why be so amazingly disingenuous as to sign such a 
> > supercilious, pointedly nasty personal attack "regards?" Stick to 
> > your
>
> > guns, man! If you're going to take eight paragraphs to write "fuck 
> > you," sign off with something honest, such as "So there, you 
> > asshole!"
>
> > ;-)
> >
> > With utterly no regard,
> > B. D.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg 
> > J. Lorenzo
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:24 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark 
> > R.
> >
> > Hi B.D.,
> >
> > Lets see if I can sum up your latest missive:
> >
> > In Paragraph 1: you are informing me "that this discussion had only 
> > ended". (I assume you meant to say "had not only ended" ?)
> >
> > What you're really saying is that YOU had decided it had "ended" and

> > why
> >
> > did I dare to catch up on postings YOU had already decided had ended

> > and
> >
> > post. I guess you also decided that all the waaay OT Iraq crap you 
> > continued to post last week (after the List Moderator requested that

> > you
> >
> > stop) was still "On Topic" and "Open" for continued posts because 
> > YOU had decided it was?
> >
> > In Paragraph 2: You continue to attempt to rationalize your 
> > completely
>
> > and continually irrational behavior of interjecting into posts 
> > demanding
> >
> > that certain poster's reveal all of their suspect "commercial 
> > affiliations" because B.D. always does this and says so.
> >
> > In Paragraph 3: You're addressing someone named "Chris" to insist 
> > that
>
> > all you've done is "suggested that we be upfront. Not that I have 
> > any power over anyone; not that this is MY LIST; not that I MAKE THE

> > RULES".
> >
> > In summary: Why don't YOU reread YOUR OWN WORDS again in all three 
> > Paragraphs below, starting in reverse order 3, 2, 1, just to see if 
> > you may in fact be violating YOUR OWN RULES?
> >
> > B.D., respectfully, why don't your get yourself a dog, cat, fish, or

> > some other interest and thereby spend less time making rules and 
> > posting demands of people on the LUG all day?
> >
> > This is my last post on this subject.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > bdcolen wrote:
> >
> > >It's quite simple, Greg - although if you had bothered to read the 
> > >time
> >
> > >on posts you would have seen that this discussion had only ended, 
> > >it had long ended in far more calm and collegial way than that in 
> > >which you've decided to revive it...
> > >
> > >The point is that as we are constantly giving each other advise 
> > >regarding commercial products - and many of us are factoring that 
> > >advice into purchasing decisions - its really nothing more than 
> > >simple good manners to tell each other if we have what might be 
> > >perceived as conflicts of interest.
> > >
> > >BTW, Chris, all I've suggested is that we be upfront. Not that I 
> > >have
>
> > >any power over anyone; not that this is my list; not that I make 
> > >the rules. All I did was ask a few questions and make a 
> > >suggestion.I wonder
> >
> > >if you've ever given any thought to the possibility that an 
> > >outburst such as yours - with its offensive religious references 
> > >and hectoring
>
> > >tone - could lead one to wonder why you find the idea of being 
> > >upfront with people so, uh, troubling?  ;-)
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >
> > >B. D.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg 
> > >J.
>
> > >Lorenzo
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:13 AM
> > >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > >Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R.
> > >
> > >
> > >bdcolen wrote in part:
> > >
> > >>I am not questioning Tina's beliefs.
> > >>
> > >No your not, your doing something infinitely worse. By your words 
> > >and
>
> > >innuendo YOU are implying that Tina has an ulterior motive for 
> > >posting her opinion and experiences.
> > >
> > >>But as I have made quite clear here before, given that we are all 
> > >>friends trading information
> > >>
> > >My point exactly. This isn't the Journal of the American Medical 
> > >Association or even Consumer Reports and you're are not Mike 
> > >Wallace doing a segment on Sixty Minutes! Its the Leica Users Group

> > >and we
> > don't
> > >
> > >need a self appointed policeman. If you, or anyone else, wishes to 
> > >disclose that they have received a camera, lens or some other 
> > >trinket
>
> > >from Canon, Fuji or Leica that's their business.
> > >
> > >What I'd like to know is why YOU think that YOU need to come 
> > >charging
>
> > >into ongoing discussions like Christ to cleanse the Temple and 
> > >suggest that there is something disreputable about a person because

> > >they
> > haven't
> > >
> > >disclosed something that YOU believe is germane?
> > >
> > >At best this type of behavior is bad manners.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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