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Subject: RE: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
From: "Kit McChesney | Acmefoto" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:26:23 -0700

Jerry--

Yes, I see, and am reading it now. Very scary. Well, we know whose interests
they're trying to protect, don't we? (Scrambling around looking for my
Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky books here ...)

I used to ask "what will the world be like for my son when he grows up?" And
unfortunately, "what will it be like" is already happening.

K.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:20 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????


BD

Sounds like we are on the way to just that, after reading
your linked document.  That is NOT from the Onion, Kit.

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> You can get the full draft legislation here...
> http://www.public-i.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=502&L1=10&L2=10&L3=0&
> L4=0&L5=0
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Tim
> Atherton
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:05 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
>
> Hmmm... that would be funny if it weren't so close tot the truth.
>
> This maybe a salon premium story, but you'll get the gist
>
> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/02/11/patriot_act/index.html
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Kelly
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:27 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: [Leica] Does this mean we can't talk about Leicas?????
> >
> >
> >
> >  Department of Homeland Security
> > "For a Safe and Secure NationT"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Clampdown on Internet Subversives
> > - President says "we must stop this evil spread of ideas"
> >
> >  Washington 2/5/03
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a far reaching announcement today, President Bush announced that an
>
> > imminent clampdown into the dissemination of subversive and dangerous
> > ideas via the Internet.
> >
> > Announcing this new initiative alongside director Tom Ridge, the
> > president said: "We must stop this evil spread of ideas. Far too many
> > people are being exposed to thoughts and concepts that challenge those
>
> > things this administration stands for. The Internet is clearly an
> > example of outmoded liberal ideas gone badly out of control."
> >
> > Director Ridge added: "It is unfair for the federal government to pass
>
> > the burden of this onto tax-payers and citizens. Instead, we are
> > proposing that the cost be shared between web site publishers and
> > those minority of the population who visit such things. Screening this
>
> > information is expensive and those costs must be passed on."
> >
> > The proposed charges will be in the region of $100 per web page to be
> > analysed for content and 10 cents per page viewed by visitors, this
> > charge will go towards an upgrade to the Carnivore systems already in
> > place. Sites belonging to government agencies are exempt, as are sites
>
> > belong to Fortune 500 companies - Director Ridge said "We can trust
> > major corporations to always act in the interests of the United
> > States, so we do not propose to screen their content. However, in the
> > current climate of terrorist threats we must consider everyone else to
>
> > be a potential subversive".
> >
> > Charges will be levied after 31st March 2003. For any queries or
> > comments, please contact our press office.
> >
> > This article is http://www.homelandsecurity.gov@subj.com/dhs/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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