Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/08

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Subject: Re: [Leica] High speed color films...
From: "\(SonC\) Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 20:32:07 -0600
References: <NABBLIJOIFAICKBIEPJJMEKPEBAB.darkroom@ix.netcom.com>

I don't recall being an ass. Maybe I am .  It is just that MANY people
(including me) have answered your question with picture examples of  mixed
lighting, and fluorescent lighting, and tungsten lighting, and daylight
lighting, and STILL you remain unconvinced.

So, who is arrogant?  I have never been accused of that by anyone but you.
Whew!  A NEW title!   Presumptuous?  I was one of the first people to answer
your question.  I have shot more than a thousand rolls of 800 film, and had
prints pulled.  I answered you question the first morning you asked it.

Bullshit?  Who is demeaning who?

Just buy the damn film, it only costs a few bucks. Shoot it. If you like it,
then use it.

Whew.

Sonny





- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] High speed color films...


> Sonny,
>
> Why are you being such an ass?  Your comment is arrogant, presumptuous as
> well as complete bullshit.  It adds no value to the thread, and I can't
> imagine for the life of me what you hope to accomplish by posting it,
except
> to demean me, which I don't appreciate, and is entirely inappropriate.
>
> Austin
>
>
> > Yeah, Kevin, the problem is that it doesn't matter how many
> > people say that
> > the film is a good performer, Austin just wants some data that
> > will prove it
> > is better.  The subjective opinion is beyond him.
> >
> > Don't waste your time.
> >
> > Sonny
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Argue" <kargue@sympatico.ca>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] High speed color films...
> >
> >
> > > Hey Guys- I use Fuji 800 colour negative for all stage performances
for
> > one
> > > of my client newspapers. For the cameras, a mixture of M6 and
> > R5 with the
> > > appropriate fast lenses. Fabulous results even in the most difficult
> > > lighting situtations.
> > >
> > > Kevin Argue
> > > St. Catharines, Canada
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > >From: Howard Sanner <flagstad@mindspring.com>
> > > >To: Leica Users Group <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Leica] High speed color films...
> > > >Date: Fri, Feb 7, 2003, 2:20 PM
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Austin asks:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone actually use high speed color film for low light
> > > > indoor use?
> > > > If so, what have you noticed WRT color balance?  What do you use
> > > > 800
> > > > speed film for?
> > > >
> > > > Kodak has some new 800 Porta, which is why I'm asking.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To which I reply:
> > > >
> > > >  Yes, I use them for taking pictures of indoor functions without
> > > > flash. I hate on-camera flash, esp. direct flash, and try hard to
> > > > avoid it. Ugh! Retirement parties, wedding anniversaries, and so
> > > > on. Typically when I do this people want 4x6 prints, and it's
> > > > well up to that. I don't remember ever enlarging any of them
> > > > bigger. At most places I photograph, using 800 speed film allows
> > > > f/5.6 @ 1/30. With a 35mm lens, with people moving slowly if at
> > > > all, this gives plenty of DOF, so that my focusing doesn't have
> > > > to be perfect (very nice for grab shots), and stops action and
> > > > camera shake adequately.
> > > >
> > > >  I've also used TMZ @ 800 similarly, and with good results.
> > > >
> > > >  I've done this with several different Leicas, from a 1936 IIIa
> > > > to a Wetzlar M6. So far, no one has complained about the results.
> > > >
> > > >  I tried some ASA 400 Portra NC last June, taking pictures of
> > > > Sarah on our anniversary, with my M3 and several different
> > > > lenses. I didn't like it at all. It made her face look like
> > > > oatmeal. I admit that neither of us has youthful, perfect skin
> > > > any more, but this was really ridiculous.
> > > >
> > > >  YMMV, and probably will.
> > > >
> > > >       Howard Sanner
> > > >       flagstad@mindspring.com
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