Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/28

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Focus Camera
From: "Kit McChesney | Acmefoto" <>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:46:27 -0700

Are we speaking privately now, or in public? (I think this is public!) Are
we asking for a profile? ;-)

The logic gene? That's supposed to be funny. Leica User Group participants
do have a reputation for being tough, especially on newbies. I'm trying to
hold up as best I can, but you know, it's hot on the grill!

Since you asked: New to the LUG. Authorized Leica Dealer and Official
Dealmaker. Artist/Writer. Official egghead, two master's degrees. Sorry, no
PhD this week. Mother. Sister. Daughter. Entrepreneur. 30 years in
photography and related fields. Aquarius. INFP. Any other questions? ;-)

Okay, Bill. Your turn now! 'Fess up!

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Focus Camera

How do you determine if you have the logic gene? Is there a test? Are
you   new to the LUG? What is your educational background, HS, College,
Graduate? What is our photography background?

Kit McChesney | Acmefoto wrote:

>Yes, it is all very honorable, and there is nothing wrong with being
>honorable! Thank you!
>If you do have the low-down on a dealership, and find it doesn't measure
>then fine. It sounds as if folks have had problems in the past, and that
>they're documented online. Bad customer service speaks for itself.
>I guess my point questions the assumption that because a dealer advertises
>as an authorized Leica dealership but doesn't carry the full Leica line
>the dealership is somehow behaving unethically or incorrectly. I certainly
>hope that it is more than obvious that this isn't so.
>I also like to think that Leica users possess an above-average degree of
>logic gene, and would be able to avoid throwing babies out with bath water!
>-----Original Message-----
>[]On Behalf Of Martin
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Focus Camera
>Kit McChesney | Acmefoto wrote:
>>That said, and with all due respect, you can surely choose to believe
>>someone is being "weasly" if you like. You can certainly jump to all
>>of conclusions if you like based on all sorts of preconceived notions
>>biased assumptions about an individual's, or a dealer's, or a
>>manufacturer's, or anyone's, motivations. You certainly have that
>>prerogative. Some see the glass as half-full, others half-empty. I
>>thoroughly enjoy being an optimist. I also am more than happy to give
>>someone the benefit of the doubt. Even if he's a weasel! ;-)
>While this is all very good and honourable, I think we've established
>through independent means (first hand reports from others) that Focus
>Camera leaves something to be desired with regard to customer service
>and the veracity of their statements regarding what they do and do not
>have in stock.
>However, for the potential customer, there is a very useful resource
>over at called neighbour-to-neighbour.  It's a repository of
>comments from past customers to lots of different sellers.
>This is what they have to say about Focus Camera:
>To unsubscribe, see
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