RE: [Leica] As The World Turns

["bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

Excuse me, Jerry - I did NOT encourage my student to do that. I told my
student to try to get PERMISSION to shoot inside a Starbucks, and he
succeeded in doing just that. Do you think he took those photos over the
course of 12 hours with a hidden camera?

It's spelled D...U...H, Jerry...;-)

B. D.

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Lehrer
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Subject: Re: [Leica] As The World Turns


BD

First you say that you have never done that, then you encourage your
students to do just that.  Isn't there an English word for that, besides
"catspaw". It starts with an "H" and ends in a "Y".  :-)

Jerry

bdcolen wrote:

> Good points, Jeffrey. And there are very few places - "national 
> security" aside - where you can't eventually work out a way to take 
> photos if your are serious about what you're doing, and have a 
> legitimate reason for photographing.
>
> I remember a long discussion on this list about the impossibility of 
> shooting inside Starbucks. Couldn't be done, people said. It's against

> corporate policy, they said. Starbucks sucks, they said. Which is why 
> I challenged one of my students to do a project on a day at Starbucks 
> - http://web.mit.edu/21w.749/www/Students/aaronmihalik/finalproject/
>
> Starbucks isn't a "cat house," but the principle is the same. ;-)
>
> B. D.
>
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> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jeffery 
> L. Smith
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 8:51 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] As The World Turns
>
> Or even in this part of the world. In New Orleans East, there is an 
> enclosed parking lot surrounded by apartments in "Little Viet Nam" 
> where
>
> there is a great open market at 6:00 a.m. Saturday mornings. Live 
> ducks and geese, dried fish, whole catfish, and a bunch of stuff I 
> couldn't identify.
> And lots of people with traditional Vietnamese garb. Not a word of
> English
> to be heard. Trouble is, none want their picture taken. I would rather
> take
> a picture of an American and have him curse me than take one of a
> visitor
> to the country and offend them in some unknown way.
>
> I'm going to try to return with a Vietnamese interpretor sometime in 
> the
>
> future. Part of the problem is no doubt that food is being sold from 
> an asphalt parking lot.
>
> Jeffery
>
> At 08:06 PM 1/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Okay, so I did understand it. In other words, someone's interest in 
> >taking a photo justifies intentionally violating religious 
> >strictures, or custom, in a foreign country? Forget camel dung in 
> >your face. Forget
>
> >the possibility of being arrested. What happened to basic human 
> >decency?
> >
> >No wonder Americans are so 'beloved' in certain parts of the world 
> >these days.
> >
> >B. D.
>
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