Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/12/21

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Leica Price increase
From: "bdcolen" <>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:55:33 -0500

Hey, Ted - None of that is "out of the norm" or out of anything else I
can think of. I would hope that Leica would have the sense to have
on-going relationships with people like you and Sal and anyone else who
is a long-time Leica shooter with a stellar professional reputation -
or, for that matter, with a Leica optical expert like Erwin. In some
businesses, people who fit said description are known as OLs - Opinion
Leaders - because that's exactly what they are. :-) 

B. D. 

- -----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Ted Grant
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Leica Price increase

B.D. wrote:
>>If you give talks for Leica,
> Nikon, Canon, Holga, tell us that. If you get demo equipment, tell us 
> that. If you get loaner equipment on occasion, tell us that too.
> I do not believe that there is anything wrong with any of this - we 
> all have livings to make. But what I do think is that it if we all 
> know what people's relationship is with Leica, or any other 
> manufacturer, we can take that into account when judging their 
> comments on the company and the equipment.
> I'll go first - I have over the years gotten both film and digital 
> loaner equipment from Olympus. Actually, I think I have already stated

> that I am playing with a loaner N20 digital, but if I haven't, I 
> am.<<<

OK here goes. And think about these comments covering a 50 year period.

1/ I lecture about photography at the Leica Seminar and yes I'm paid,
that would seem a reasonable thing considering the weeks of  prep time
my associate and myself do preparing the lectures. My 50 year
association of using Leica equpment is where my comments come from,
experience of using under professional demands and not becaause I'm
given free equipment.

2/ Sometimes I've had loaner gear when other bits are in for servicng.
I'm a working professional and my livelyhood would be jepoardized
without certain lenses or cameras. I'm not any different than any other
working pro Leica user in this case, as any pro can belong to the Leica
Professional Servicing department.

3/ Over the 51 years I've got a couple of bricks of film from Kodak....
one from Fuji. One from Agfa and that was shared with Sandy Carter my
associate.. So it's like a big deal right.

4/ I have the unfortunate habit of calling it as I see, the equipment
functioning right or wrong. Have actually put both feet in deep shit
doing this in the past. :-(  And I've continued since and always will .

However when I have great results in a working environment of
photography with any piece of Leica equipment that's all that matters to
me and if that success can assist another shooter in some manner I will
and do pass that experience on.... for free!!!!

So there you go eh! And I can't think of anything else out of the norm.

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