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Subject: Re: [Leica] Reflex vs. RF
From: "Jeffrey Fass" <>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:52:29 -0500
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Yes, I understand that to be true from what I've read. The R4s doesn't seem
"Leica-like." If I use longer lenses more often, I'd likely consider an SL
or, if I my wife didn't mind, an R9.

Cheers, Jeffrey

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Reflex vs. RF

> You might want to try a Leicaflex SL or even Leicaflex Standard to see how
> joyful it is to use reflex.  You can say that it might be noisier but I
> say that it is definitely smoother with a little sound that I can even
> enjoy.  I would not call it noisy but call it dulcet.  The sound always
> pleases my ears.  I use more SL (or RE with motor) than my M3 as I
> use 90mm or longer most of times.  Of course, you can enjoy as extensively
> as some of the best zoom lenses in the 35mm world like the redoubtable
> 70-180 APO-Vario-Elmarit that you cannot even dream with rangefinder.  I
> would not comment on reflex until I try a SL or SL2 or Standard.
> Best Wishes,
> David Lee
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Jeffrey Fass
> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:17:45 -0500
> To:,
> Subject: [Leica] Reflex vs. RF
> Interesting observations.
> I had Nikons for many years, sold it all for Leica M, having a ball with
> Miss having a reflex reflex camera on hand, especially for longer f/l.
> received a R4s with 90 Elmarit purchased very reasonably from e*b*y.
> After having used the M for only several months I was struck how different
> and strange the R felt.  The viewfinder is darker, the 90 makes everything
> *big* in the viewfinder (I've become used to the M 90 frameline). Most
> significant is the *slonk* of the mirror/shutter. It's got quite a kick to
> it. The M is so stealthy by comparison.
> Mind, in general I think, at least comparing the R4, Nikon has the reflex
> thing down. Quieter, smoother, faster. The lenses are a whole 'nuther
> though.
> I see how both reflex and RF have their places. The M is best with 90 or
> (especially) shorter f/l. Quiet, compact, unobtrusive. The R is noisy, not
> as fast, but is a no-brainer for longer f/l. I haven't decided yet whether
> prefer the R or M 90. Even if I decide the reflex 90 is nicer, it's good
> have the reach with the M anyway.
> This stuff is too fun.
> Best, Jeffrey
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