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Subject: RE: [Leica] OT: Virus stuff....
From: D Khong <dkhong@pacific.net.sg>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:29:57 +0800

Neil

Point taken. Moral of story:  We must not open front doors.  ;-)

Dan K.

At 01:35 PM 10/4/02 +0100, you wrote:
>It would take me about four hours to write a virus that would patiently
>collect all your web passwords as you entered them, wait a descreet interval
>before emailing them silently to a hotmail address and deleting copies of
>the email from your sent items folder.  For good measure I could open a port
>on your machine and make your hard drive browsable from the internet - with
>a bit of extra work I could probably get this past your firewall.   After
>another discreet interval it would delete itself causing no visible harm to
>your system. NAV wouldn't catch it because it wouldn't have any definition
>of it to work with.
>
>What I couldn't do is make you run it in the first place.  You don't buy
>insurance then not care about leaving your front door open.
>
>Neil
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: D Khong [mailto:dkhong@pacific.net.sg]
>Sent: 04 October 2002 12:51
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us; leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Virus stuff....
>
>
>
> >First Neil wrote:
> >
> ><If you get
> > > an attachment that you didn't expect from someone that you don't know,
> > > delete it.  If it's from someone you do know, ask them what it is before
> >you
> > > open it.  Simple really and cheaper than anti-virus software.>
>
>Then Mark Pope wrote:
>
> >Fair point Neil, but I would NEVER, EVER skimp on AV software.  It's just
> >too risky IMO.  So Norton AV costs up to £50.  There are others that are
> >shareware or even freeware, so there is no real justification to not having
> >AV software installed or a firewall for that matter.
> >£50 is a bargain compared to the disruption and heartache that a nasty
>virus
> >that trashes your hard disk, records keystrokes, thereby picking up and
> >transmitting  user Ids and passwords.
>
>snip....
>
>We pay for home insurance, life insurance, accident insurance, malpractice
>insurance and most time  we hardly get to use them (thank God for that).
>For the past one month alone, I have been bombarded by emails with all
>sorts of viruses and on EVERY occasion my Norton AV has defended my PC
>against them. I cannot forget that time some years back when my PC was hit
>by a virus which took me many man-hours and $$$ to clean up by a
>professional. Why stinge on $50 for peace of mind? My NAV updates itself
>every now and then and I can really feel completely safe and sleep well.
>
>Dan K.
>
>
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