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Subject: RE: [Leica] the latest madness
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:39:16 -0400

Is this  a troll, the ravings of a racist asshole who makes Ted sound like
Martin Luther King, Jr. come again, or both?

B. D.
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Don
Rorschach
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:01 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] the latest madness


The next question is: where would they be now if their ancestors had not
been caught by Africans and sold into slavery by Africans?  Africa being
eaten by other Africans?
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From: "Rob Appleby" <rob@robertappleby.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] the latest madness


> It was quite an interesting event actually. Ted made some jokes about
> slavery. I suspect that the people who got angry at him will have made the
> politically simplistic equation slavery=black slavery in the US.
> Unfortunately, slavery is a major phenomenon in the modern world, with
over
> 200 million slaves worldwide at the moment (can't remember the source, UN
> most likely), and no-one has a monopoly on victimhood, nor does anyone
hold
> the moral high ground in this area.
>
> Ted left the list - well too bad. He has pissed plenty of people off in
his
> time and he's also been very helpful to a lot of people on this list (I
> myself have a pair of his underpants as a lens cleaning cloth), but his
> mythical status might seem a bit puzzling to an outsider. But I'm sure
that
> he wouldn't have had the career he has had, if he wasn't hard as nails
> underneath the grampa exterior. He'll be back eventually - who could
resist
> the adulation?
>
> Unfortunately the LUG is singularly devoid of a sense of humour and
doesn't
> tolerate satire very well - which is pretty much par for the course for
the
> internet.
>
> Now if BD left the list - that would be a disaster, in quantitative terms
at
> least!  ;-)
>
> R.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffery Smith" <JLS@runbox.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] the latest madness
>
>
> > It happened at the end of the Slavery and Canada thread (which I avoided
> > looking at altogether). Apparently Ted made some tongue-in-cheek
comments
> > after the thread had gotten completely out of hand, and some folks took
> him
> > seriously and flamed him. A learning experience for me: (1) don't say
> > anything tongue in cheek on the LUG because someone will take it
> seriously,
> > and (2) don't take anything seriously on the LUG. This is approaching
Sci
> > Fi proportions.
> >
> > JLS
> >
> > At 10:14 AM 9/2/2002 -0300, you wrote:
> > >B. D. Colen wrote:
> > >
> > > > I told you what I know to be the case: Ted Grant unsubscribed from
the
> LUG.
> > > > He did not say anything about taking a breather. He said he was
> > > > unsubscribing after receiving what he describes as a number of quite
> nasty
> > > > off-list messages from list members even after he apologized on-list
> > > for his
> > > > post.
> > > >
> > > > He didn't say if he'd be back at some point in the future or not.
> > > >
> > > > B. D.
> > >
> > >
> > >oh... I missed this !!
> > >what happened ?
> > >
> > >well, people comes and goes... that's life.
> > >
> > >Pablo
> > >
> > >
> > >--
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> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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