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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: FOM 2/year 2
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:41:54 -0400

It's okay, Cliff - This is NOT Mark's personal list. He is not the list
owner. He is not the webmaster. He, like thee and me, is just one of a very
large number of members of this list - all of whom are free to express our
often strong opinions on any subject from Tilley hats, to single malt
Scotch, to Mont Blanc pens, to - get this, Leicas and photography!

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of clifford
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FOM 2/year 2

Perhaps I was a bit too bold. Forgive me.
My first post was May 30th and if you check the
archives the responses were an interesting
introduction to the LUG. Not quite what I expected.
 I've pretty much laid back since, except for a few
(37) posts that are all fairly innocuous.  I was quite
excited to join this list (and am still excited to be
able to learn and discuss from/with the likes of Tina
Manley and yourself) but after the  fire storm of
political replys to my first post I have been keeping
my head fairly down low ever since.
 So, how much longer do you suggest and when is my
 Thank you sir, may I have another?
:-) :-)
Clif Wright

- --- Mark Rabiner <> wrote:
> clifford wright wrote:
> >
> >  With all due respect this is a public list.
> >  Now if its a secret club then maybe you should
> come
> > up with a password.  : - )
> > Clif Wright
> > A new member of the lug. Whether you like it or
> not. :
> > - )
> >
> ><Snip>
> So is this this persons first post?
> Good for him! He's a braver man than I'll ever be.
> I think my first post was some innocuous wimpy thing
> about lens caps and
> UV filters or some such thing.
> The idea of laying back a little when you are new to
> any type of human
> being cluster to me is such an obvious part of
> common sense and
> etiquette that it is almost not worth mentioning.
> I've never heard this "Clifford Wright" name in my
> life and it seems
> funny getting into an argument about  the goings on
> with this list with
> him.  ..or any unfamiliar name of course!.
> This of course exactly illustrates my point. Here we
> are with newbies
> throwing their weight around.
> I really do think its human nature that I'm going to
> feel more
> comfortable discussing things with this fellow in a
> week or so when
> things smooth out and we all get to know each other.
> Wouldn't people say things like "Hello I'm new to
> the list i just bought
> a Leica M6 and i want to know what lens to get for
> it..... that kind of
> thing? I thought that's what newbies did.
> Mark Rabiner
> Portland, Oregon USA
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