Re: [Leica] Re: To M7 or not to M7, c'est la question - LONG

["Annie RN" <hey_eyni@hotmail.com>]

I have been lurking around this forum for quite some time.  This love-hate 
thing with the M7 is getting too long...hate to see LUGgers bash a the new 
Leica while Contaxians enjoy their forums and draw a wish list for the G3.

How about breaking this thread by asking yourselves 'Why not get a Contax G* 
instead?'?   I think I'll get a ton of 'NOT!!!!'....HEHEHE.

Enjoy the Leica folks and the fact that you were able to afford one....I 
thought that was what this forum was for.

Cheers!
Annie

>From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: To M7 or not to M7, c'est la question - LONG
>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:26:08 -0700
>
>
>Hi Ted:
>
>I have been watching this thread and believe your comments, and Tina's,
>are right on. You both have given some mighty good advice and comments
>over the past couple of months on the M7- things that people can read,
>digest, and take to the bank.
>
>Maybe it is because I am your age, Ted (no offense there, I hope) but I
>get a little peeved at those who jabber on about something which, as you
>said, they know very little about from experience.
>
>So, from my perspective, I hope that you folks will continue to tell us
>like it is.  We need that kind of input to make intelligent buying
>decisions.
>
>And for those who wish to take issue with Ted and Tina, well, unless you
>have real down-to-earth hands experience to draw your conclusions from,
>please keep it to yourselves.  These threads get long enough without
>comments from those who know not whereof they speak.
>
>The Other Ted
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: To M7 or not to M7, c'est la question - LONG
>
>
> > Allan Wafkowski wrote:
> >
> > >>> The Leica myth.
> > >
> > > Anyone here could, for $240, buy a Minolta Maxxum 5 or Canon Rebel
>2000
> > > and have a more capable camera than the $2500 M7. Both run circles
> > > around the M7's antiquated exposure system. Gone too is the lame
>excuse,
> > > "I must have a fully mechanical camera for those times when I go
>brain
> > > dead and forget the batteries."<<<
> >
> > Allan mon ami and others,
> > One thing that never came to mind nor am I, nor have I ever been
>impressed
> > by the Leica myth, doesn't mean a thing and we're talking 40 plus
>years of
> > leica equipment use.
> >
> > It has nothing to do with whether for x number of dollars I could
>purchase
> > some other manufactures gear and have better whiz o things, as it's of
>no
> > relevance, as I work with the camera and lenses that give me
>satisfaction
> > for the results published and or screened.
> >
> > Nor do I ever want anyone else's. Although I'm well experienced in the
>use
> > of Canon, Nikon , Hassleblad and Speed Graphic, the type of work I've
>always
> > done has lent itself to Leica M cameras. Or in sports, the R gear.
> >
> > I don't have any interest in how you and many others are relating with
>anti
> > comments about the M7, certainly when experience has shown Tina and
>myself,
> > along with other LUG members that the M7 does a rather excellent job
>at
> > exposure selection. And by our experience we've learned it works more
> > efficiently than the M6. In our opinion.
> >
> > The AE function has been around for sometime, so big deal, who really
>cares.
> > Now that it's in the Leica M7 is all that matters!. And that's the
>camera of
> > choice and the results are more than surprising and much to my / our
>liking.
> >
> > You and many others are ripping it apart and most of you haven't even
>had
> > one in your hands, let alone pumped a dozen or two rolls of film
>through
> > one. So to all the nay sayers and bit players how about cooling your
> > comments until you've at least tried one with at least one roll of
>film.
> > Seems like a reasonable request, don't you think?
> >
> > Then come back and tell the two of us we're idiots for buying and
>should've
> > stayed with the M6. And until many of you shoot a roll and see the
>results
> > it would be wonderful if all the comparisons to other "wanna be"
>cameras
> > could be put on hold until you've all tried the M7. And I don't mean
>playing
> > with one in a store, work one and find out for yourself, you and the
>others
> > maybe very surprised at the results.
> >
> > I see many of the same comments offered as when the R8 came out, and
>by
> > people who'd only seen the R8 in picture form, so it's amazing how a
>group
> > of some what intelligent photographers can get their asses in a great
>big
> > tizzy over something they've only read about, never handled, nor
>exposed a
> > roll of film with.
> >
> > It seems some of you would dearly love to see Leica crash and burn,
>only to
> > prove something about the myth and infallibility or whatever.
> >
> > I cannot speak for Tina, however I see no reason for Tina nor myself
>to
> > offer any further words of experience to the LUG regarding the M7, as
>our
> > offerings appear being totally wasted time, certainly when both of us
>as
> > professionals have far better things to do than try to assist our
>fellow
> > photographers with information derived from our experience.
> >
> > This isn't my style, nor is it Tina's to cut things in this manner,
>but I
> > think many of you are yapping on over things you have no control over
>and
> > actually are wasting your time when you could all be out shooting with
> > whatever model Leica you own. And unless you have a reason to buy an
>M7 and
> > would like some assistance with a question, then why not go take
>pictures.
> >
> > If someone wishes to ask me private fine, but on the big screen it's
>wasted
> > time. Too bad.
> > thank you.
> > ted
> >
> >
> >
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