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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: decisive moment question on PAW ?
From: "Tim Atherton" <tim@KairosPhoto.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:45:23 -0600

I must say I rather like this pic. Robs working on something here and
getting close. He hasn't quite caught the moment, but he's getting there,
and there are lots of interesting elements. As for flash, if you're going to
use it, you don't always have to hide the fact. a "natural looking" flash
shot often isn't that natural at all, in the circumstances. Sometimes it's
just good to go ahead and blast it (take a look at Martin Parr's people
shots using ringflash).

Everything about photographic representations is unnatural - it's good to
highlight that.

The highlighted "15" and the flag are important elements.

It's a good picture in my opinion (I won't add the false note "humble", as
usually, when IMHO is in there, it's usually anything but!). Keep working
along these lines and they'll get even more interesting.

tim a

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Pablo
> Kolodny
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:38 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: decisisve moment question on PAW ?
>
>
> B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> > Okay - Time to be blunt.:-0 (As we all know, we post photos asking for
> > honest comment and criticism)- (Sorry, Rob)
> >
> > This is not a "GOOD" photo. It is not, by any stretch of the
> imagination an
> > HCB "decisive moment." And it certainly isn't an FOM photo - I,
> II, or C. It
> > is an improperly exposed party snap. Period. As Ted pointed
> out, the light
> > from the flash is dumped onto the foreground, blowing out the
> light colored
> > items and leaving both the woman and the man underexposed. All the photo
> > tells us is that the man isn't feeling well - one assumes he's
> drunk - or is
> > very tired, and the woman is looking at a little flag, or is
> waving it. So
> > what? We don't see anything in the photo indicating that it has
> anything to
> > do with soccer, the World Cup, the Invasion of the Faulklands, or the
> > election of Margaret Thatcher. Nothing, in other words, to give
> it any kind
> > of context or meaning. If one knew these two people, this would
> be the kind
> > of moderately amusing photo one might hand them as a 60 Minute 4x6,
> > expecting them to titter in embarrassment as they tore it in half.
> >
> > B. D.
>
> today we found an inspired BD...
> and, on the other side, let me say I gladly agreed with Ted too.
> don't know if the first and hope it is not the last one.
>
> Pablo
> anti flash dept.
>
>
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