Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't think BD denied anything. He merely pointed out that the pictures were more typical of a south east Asian country than a communist one. I've never been to Vietnam so I can't comment on it but the pictures could easily have been taken in Thailand (except the Ho Chi Minh poster but especially the Coke advert). I like the pictures a lot but I can't help thinking that they'd work better in colour. This is probably due to the flattening effect that you get on phot.net with B&W pics though. - -----Original Message----- From: Roland Smith [mailto:roland@dnai.com] Sent: 31 May 2002 05:23 To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. I understand what Oliver is seeing. I traveled to Hanoi in 1999 along with visiting other countries in the area, Tailand, Maylasia and Singapore. I have traveled to Japan, Peoples Republic of China, Hong Kong and Teipei. Viet Nam is distinctly different and most typical of a communist country as is the PRC. These same characteristics were visible in Eastern Bloc countries in Europe and in Russia, which I have visited. Liberal denial does not change the landscape. Roland Smith Oakland, California - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. > I thought that's what you meant, Oliver. And, based on your name, I'm going > to guess you're Vietnamese and your family was on the losing end of that > ugly conflict, so your reaction is understandable. > > I don't want you to think for a minute that I am sympathetic toward > Communist governments or Communism. But I do believe that what is seen in > those photos is, as I said, seen throughout Asia. Indeed, it is seen > throughout the world - there are folks who sleep in alleys in the U.S., and > people who sell goods from baskets here. > > The sad reality is that, in most cases, the suffering of people on the > bottom of any heap has to do more with the failures of Capitalism - a system > which has certainly improved the lives of countless 10s of millions of > people - than it does the evils of Communism, an utterly failed and > discredited experiment. > > B. D. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of olivier > nguyen > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:33 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. > > > Hi B.D, > B.D, I don't know how to say this but that is how i feel about those > pictures. a communist leader who make the country weaker and screwup entire > country. a couple sleep in pavement, a woman sell good with her basket. it > give me an impression of poverty, politic and bad leadership that lead the > country to poverty end. > > I am sorry to Clif if my previous post was directly against you. I did not > mean it at all. > > Olivier Nguyen > > > >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > >Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:25:12 -0400 > > > >I don't want to start something here, Oliver, but I don't understand what > >any of these photos have to do with Communism, other than the fact that one > >has a poster of Ho Chi Minh. Other than the photo with the Ho poster, these > >photos could have been taken in virtually any city in any nation in Asia. > > > >B. D. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of olivier > >nguyen > >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:58 PM > >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > >Subject: Re: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. > > > > > >good place for street photography. 1,3,5 are product of communism or what > >i > >call idiotic of VC > >:(( > >too bad > > > > > > >From: clifford wright <skidoophoto@yahoo.com> > > >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > >Subject: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi. > > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > >This is my first time on the LUG! > > >I just uploaded a few street photos taken in Hanoi > > >last > > >summer with a M4-P and 35 and 50 summicrons at > > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=209735 > > >There's more on the way. > > >Let me know what you think. > > >Thanks, > > >Clif > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > >-- > > >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > > > >No Archive > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > No Archive > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. 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