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Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV
From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:07:02 -0700
References: <E138FFF60E29D511844D00508BB19B0604901C30@msnaex20.usi.net> <133301c1ea38$b8e57c40$e58402c7@bayeramd>

Thanks to everyone who has written to me personally or posted an answer
to the LUG regarding my message below.

My wife enjoyed them and appreciated them all and I think we now have an
understanding about this.  Perhaps not entirely, as I believe she still
feels that it may not be "fair" to do all this manipulation, but I know
that she is more accepting of what AA and others did/are doing and why
they did/are doing it.

Now I guess it's safe for me to break out the Photoshop Elements I
recently purchased and go to work!  ;-)

Take care,

Ted in Olalla
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV


>
> My wife was watching and after seeing him dodging and altering the
negs,
> and hearing the narrator say that the finished product was highly
> manipulated and often much different than the original subject, which
if
> seen as taken might be quite plain and boring.
>
> She then commented, "I am disappointed.  I don't think that's right --
> after all, you keep telling me you wanted the Leica and that wonderful
> lens so your photos would have that beautiful glow and be truly
> representative of what you saw.  Explain this to me!"
>
> Help!!!  ;-)
>
> Ted in Olalla
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ginex, Mike" <mginex@panynj.gov>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV
>
>
> > I was truly impressed and inspired by the AA show, but I too feel
his
> photos
> > are somewhat clinical. I have always felt there was something
> unnatural
> > there. Maybe if I someday go to Yosemite, I'll change my opinion.
> >
> > M.G.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: B. D. Colen [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:51 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV
> >
> >
> > If you'd seen 6 ft under you might not have thought so, Ernie...;-)
> >
> > I find myself in the somewhat unusual category of having great
> admiration
> > for AA as a photo technician and "inventor," and very little regard
> for him
> > as a
> > "photographer." His development of the Zone System and his abilities
> as a
> > manipulator of light, in the field and in the darkroom, were great
> technical
> > achievements. That said, however, I find his photography sterile
> incredibly
> > predictable. I can't blame the Estate for the monsoon of posters,
> etc. -
> > AA's photos ARE posters. They're "beautiful," and if they inspire
> people to
> > want to protect the environment then they are truly valuable. But,
> IMO, they
> > lack ambiguity and any sense of imagination.
> >
> > But I stress this is my opinion - nothing more, nothing less - and
it
> is
> > certainly a minority view.
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of
> > enitka@twcny.rr.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:36 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV
> >
> >
> > I like many others found the show to be awe inspiring- as much for
the
> > photography as for the celebration of
> > one person's efforts to save the environment.  I have always been a
> fan of
> > AA.  What suprises me is the way he
> > is sometimes disparaged in some photographic circles.  The negative
> reaction
> > that he generates is difficult to
> > understand.  I think much of it may be not so much his photography
or
> him
> > but the way his art has sometimes
> > been foisted onto the general public as the "only real american
> > photographer".  Mind you this is not my opinion
> > but the effect of 1] being very very talented and 2] having an
> agressive
> > Trust organization to promote things
> > after death.  I believe this maybe what some object to.  Much like
> Frank
> > Lloyd Wright - except in this case FLW
> > was not a very nice person ( my take of him) but his architecture is
> sooo
> > wonderful.
> >
> > The show was worth missing 6 feet under - my wife was sent into the
> other
> > room to record all the plot lines in
> > 6FU.
> >
> > ernie nitka
> >
> >
> > 4/22/02 8:46:00 AM, SthRosner@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >In a message dated 4/22/02 1:45:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > >red735i@earthlink.net writes:
> > >
> > >> If you did not see the show, you missed the most inspirational 1
1
> /2
> > hours
> > >>  on phtotgraphy.   Try to get a video from a friend.
> > >
> > >Yes, Frank, also a magnificent journey of the human spirit and an
> accurate
> > >description of one aspect of the American national psyche that most
> people
> > >miss. I spent four months during the summers of my 14th and 15th
> years
> > >working in the Rocky Mountain West and the feeling for the western
> > wilderness
> > >has never left me.
> > >
> > >My wife missed it and as PBS sells the video for $19.95, I'm
getting
> a copy
> > >for her.
> > >
> > >Seth       LaK 9
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In reply to: Message from "Ginex, Mike" <mginex@panynj.gov> (RE: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV)
Message from "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com> (Re: [Leica] Ansel Adams on PBS TV)