Re: [Leica] Re: The loss of any member is a loss for us all

[Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com>]

I have problems with cultism and groupieism
and say so whenever the topic comes up. The last time
it happened some guy responded by making comments
about my mother! Unbelievable! I guess some people
just can't take criticism even if it's general. I
never attack a
member personally except off list. That's probably the
key. It should be ok to critique even forcefully or
humourously as long as we keep personalities out of
it. Unfortunately some folks ignore that threshold or
don't seem to know where it is. I've seen lots of
people attacked personally for comments about the
hardware the hobby and the profession.
Javier

- --- Brian Reid <reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> wrote:
> There are many different ways to run a mailing list.
> I have chosen in recent years to run this one by not
> trying very hard to steer topics or correct
> misbehavior. About once a month I feel the need to
> terminate a topic, and every couple of years I eject
> a person. Mostly I just let it simmer, like soup.
> 
> Every online community will form a core group who
> are comfortable with the way that community is run.
> The fundamental lawlessness of the LUG has produced
> a core group who are a bit too much on the nasty and
> judgmental side, which therefore causes us to lose
> members who have a problem with nastiness and
> judgmentalism.
> 
> There are plenty of online user groups for Leica
> people. I know of at least 3. I see no point in
> making the LUG be just like the others, and I
> believe that over the years the benefits of the
> lawlessness have outweighed the downsides.
> 
> This habit of picking on Erwin is definitely a
> downside. I believe that if I were to run the LUG in
> a more-controlled fashion so that less of this
> happened, that some other parts would suffer.  I
> wish you all were better behaved, but I'm not
> willing to take the draconian measures necessary to
> force you to behave.
> 
> 
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