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Subject: Re: [Leica] Did Leica miss the boat on the M7 viewfinder?
From: Andrew Schroter <schroter@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:34:38 -0800
References: <20020405053540.84288.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com>

It's a great Street Photography System, don't you agree?  Especially with a
super-wide angle lens which one can set the focus to 1 meter.  In that
scenario, I can "guess and shoot" without bringing the camera up to the eye.
Obviously, there's a lot of misses, but think of the shots you get without
people aware that you're shooting them.
AGS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Javier Perez" <summarex@yahoo.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Did Leica miss the boat on the M7 viewfinder?


> It's a very limited system
> It has a limited range of lenses
> It has a limited range of shutter speeds
> It has a 2FPS winder and no motor drive
> It has no focus assist
> It is impossible to do macro work with it.
> What do you want from me?
>
> OK..
> It's an incredibly useful and versatile system!!!!
> I use it to take pictures of pet rabbit Andy.
> Happy?
> Javier
>
> --- Feliciano di Giorgio <feli@d2.com> wrote:
> > Javier Perez wrote:
> > >
> > > Focusing very fast long lenses is a problem
> > > if you have high res optics and want to make
> > > large prints.
> >
> > True, even with lousy optics and any size
> > enlargements.
> >
> > >With a long enough base and magnification you could
> > focus
> > >them more accurately than you could with the eye
> > through a
> > >viewfinder.This is right up Leitz' alley if the
> > should choose
> > > to develop it.
> >
> > I used to shoot a 180mm f2.8 Zeiss Olympia on a
> > Pentax 645 (med.
> > format).
> > Depth of field at f2.8 is very slim. To get sharp
> > pictures I would put
> > it
> > on a tripod and check critical focus with a eyepiece
> > magnifier.
> > Of course if you are shooting with a longer focal
> > length than that,
> > you could always stop down, check your depth of
> > field and set the lens
> > to infinity...
> >
> > > As for the M system being near useless,
> > > if you call being limited to focal lengths from 15
> > to
> > > 135 and no CV zooming useful, stick with it.
> >
> > I wouldn't exactly call the focal lengths from 15 to
> > 135 'limited'.
> > Up until about 20 years ago, when good zooms became
> > widely available,
> > photographers got along pretty fine with what you
> > describe.
> > I don't see what you are getting at with a
> > amateurish statement like
> > that.
> >
> >
> > >As for me, I like to take long shots on occasion
> > without
> > >having to bring along a second system.;-))
> >
> > So why did you by a rangefinder to begin with? It
> > sounds like you
> > would be better off with a Nikon or Canon with a
> > wide range zoom.
> >
> >
> > >Finally, ask yourself why about 90% of the people
> > on this list have
> > > another system, usually reflex and it's usually
> > their primary system.
> > > Later
> > > Javier
> > >
> >
> > Most craftsmen have more than one tool in their kit.
> > Different types of jobs require different tools.
> >
> >
> > feli
> >
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> > smile all the time.
> > -Ethan Ormsby
> >
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Replies: Reply from "Jeffrey Frankel" <jfrankel@worldnet.att.net> (Re: [Leica] Did Leica miss the boat on the M7 viewfinder?)
In reply to: Message from Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com> (Re: [Leica] Did Leica miss the boat on the M7 viewfinder?)