Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 2:34 PM -0500 3/26/02, Teresa299@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/26/02 6:13:59 AM, darkroom@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< The need for lawyers (in a grand sense) is because of the, in my opinion, >over complexity of our laws. This need is, in a large sense, self made, >since, for the most part, lawyers write the laws. Unlike the need for >doctors, who do not make up the illnesses. I am in no way suggesting that >lawyers can't and don't serve a very useful function...but the need is WAY >to overbearing, in my opinion. A somewhat intelligent person should be able >to take care of %99 of the legal issues one needs to take care of.>> > >Well, in one sense, lawyers exist because the theory is that it's better to >go to court and battle rather than to beat the crap out of each other on the >streets. > >In a previous life cycle I used to practice law. I got out because I >realized there were better things to do with my life rather than to deal with >angry people. > >A few cynical observations: > >People hate lawyers until they need one. > >If people learned to deal with others in a respectful manner, then a huge >percentage of cases would never hit the courts. Case in point--family law. >Folks would often times prefer to spend the family's assets in the form of >lawyer fees rather than to divide it equitably at the outset. > >Yes, the laws are ridiculously complex, obfuscating (lawyer word) simple >understanding by lay people. Many laws started with a simple concept (i.e. >equal rights, freedom from injury by others) but become increasingly complex >because people disagree with those concepts, sue, and attempt to narrow or >influence the laws. Laws and legal forms are often complex because the >folks on the other side (non-lawyers) are intentionally trying to pull one >over on the other party. To say so in plain English makes it harder, thus >they hire (their lawyers) to make plain English into legalese gibberish. > >Lawyers exist because when (like on the LUG) disagreements break out, simple >intelligence as well as compassion and understanding give way to ego, power, >and pettiness. Maybe if we can reinvent the human animal then the need for >lawyers as well as cops and trauma centers might be reduced. > > ><<If there weren't so many personal injury lawyers looking for personal injury >cases, I don't believe there would be so many personal injury cases. Some >personal injury cases are entirely legitimate, but a large number of the >ones I hear about (and know first hand) are just absurd, and would not go >anywhere unless some unscrupulous lawyer got involved. The sad part is, >these lawyers get companies to pay up, though their claims are a joke, >because the cost of litigating, and the POTENTIAL for large awards is there. > >This was in no way meant to offend anyone, but is simply my personal view on >the subject.>> > >Personal injury cases exist because people drive drunk and crash into others, >people own vicious dogs that attack other people, people make tires that >blow-out, cars that blow-up on minor impact and dump toxic chemicals and junk >into the water that other people are attempting to drink. In short, people >do irresponsible things that hurt other people. We have criminal laws that >punish folks for doing such actions, why is wanting to be financially >compensated any crazier? You really want to reduce the number of personal >injury lawyers? Then start rewiring people who think it's okay to do these >kind of things--rewire people so these acts aren't done in the first place. > >The bizarro cases everyone talks about make the news because they're bizarro >and because they are kept in the public eye because they often serve the >needs of special interest, think-tank lobby groups who are trying to sway >public opinion for their own purposes (generally profit). > > >In the old days, lawyers were at the top of a very short list of hated >professions. If one looks around you can see that the list is getting pretty >crowded.... > >Business executives like Enron folks who screw over shareholders and >employees, and the state of California, >Accounting executives and workers who help doctor the books, >HMO-Insurance executives, (ruined the health care profession), >Catholic Priests, (too much sex not enough confessions) >Doctors, (more time on the golf course, 15 minute appointments and no >housecalls) >Politicians, (say no more) >Plumbers (charge too much), >College Professors (damn liberals), > >Pretty much the only groups excluded from hated professionals right now are >those in the armed services, FDNY and sex industry workers. > >Am I defending lawyers? Not really. I'm merely pointing out that before any >one person starts to get full of themselves on how one profession acts more >ethically than others, for folks to look in the mirror and ask themselves how >much are they, or have they contributed to the current system they dislike, >and how much they are willing to do, to change society in a way that so that >all citizens are respectful of the rights of other citizens--and thus reduce >the need for lawyers in the first place. > > >-kim Well said, and that should (but probably won't be ... <sigh>) the last on that topic. - -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html