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Subject: RE: [Leica] McCurry's Afghan Girl & Suffering
From: kiklaas@iinet.net.au
Date: 14 Mar 2002 02:57:02 -0000

I have a photographic book at home - called "The Last Century", it 
documents each year by the photographs of the time...what became obvious 
to me after paging through the entire book is that nothing has been 
learned from the mistakes of the past, absolutely nothing - I did not see 
any difference in the anount of suffering in the world since 1900.

Setting the cat amongst the pidgeons.....can anyone list all the women 
known to have committed mass atrocities in history...I am seriously 
interested in an answer to this.

Karina

> At 06:53 PM 3/13/02 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > You might want to subtract the bomb damage from that total figure
> > >
> > >
> >
> >And wasn't the latest estimate 3 - 4000 civilians killed in the 
bombing...?
> >
> >tim
> 
> 
> And ...
> 
> Afghanistan
> 
> Thousands of civilians killed
> following Taleban takeover of Mazar-e Sharif
> 
> Taleban guards deliberately and systematically killed thousands of 
ethnic 
> Hazara civilians during the first three days following their military 
> takeover of Mazar-e Sharif on 8 August 1998, according to new 
information 
> received by Amnesty International.
> 
> Since their arrival in Mazar-e Sharif, the Taleban have sealed the area 
to 
> foreign media and independent observers. Amnesty International's 
> information is based on testimonies from eyewitnesses and surviving 
members 
> of the victims' families.
> 
> The vast majority of those killed were from the Hazara ethnic group 
living 
> in Zara'at, Saidabad, and Elm Arab areas of the city. The victims were 
> killed deliberately and arbitrarily in their homes, in the streets where 
> their bodies were left for several days, or in locations between Mazar-e 
> Sharif and Hairatan. Many of those killed were civilians including 
women, 
> children and the elderly who were shot trying to flee the city.
> 
> This latest information shows yet again how the Taleban disregard 
> internationally recognized humanitarian laws on the treatment of 
civilians 
> in armed conflict, Amnesty International said. The Taleban leadership 
> must give clear and direct orders to their troops to uphold 
international 
> safeguards.
> 
> 
> Following their takeover, Taleban guards imposed a curfew in the city. 
In 
> the Uzbek populated areas, they told people to hand in their weapons, 
while 
> in the Hazara area, they told people to stay in their homes. They then 
> entered Hazara houses one by one, killing older men and children and 
taking 
> away young men without any explanation. In some houses, they also took 
away 
> young women as Kaniz (maid-servant) saying they would be married off to 
the 
> Taleban militia.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from Alastair Firkin <firkin@ncable.net.au> (RE: [Leica] McCurry's Afghan Girl & Suffering)
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