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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: price of art prints (was re: kyle's fine art)
From: "Tim Atherton" <tim@KairosPhoto.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:33:50 -0700

> Your use of the term "knee jerk" is merely a slogan; it's a cheap shot.

aww c'mon Alan, how else could you describe:

> Pay people from the public coffer to do things no one in
> their right mind should even consider doing? Dung on canvas? Religious
> objects in urine?

That's the standard unthinking response as soon as anyone raises "public
funding of art"

"No-one in their right mind should ever consider doing"? How gracious  to
make the judgement. I know a number of people who's lives were rather
damaged by the Catholic Church that, at a conference we had, immediately saw
meaning in "Piss Christ" - it had quite powerful resonance's. For them it
was a very valid piece of art.

Dung on canvas - you might want to read, for example, The History of Shit by
Dominique Laporte, or Underworld by DeLillo, or the Unbearable Likeness of
Being by Kundera; or the story of the IRA Hunger Strikers "on the blanket",
to realise how central "dung" is to our society - and I'm not being
facetious (managed to avoid the misspelling there...) - it's a subject
entirely worthy of artistic investigation and exploration. Do you know how
many millions (actually, probably billions) of dollars profit are made on
"waste disposal". So it isn't as silly as it looks.

and why the need for consensus on what art is?

> If you can't, we tell those European
> bozo to kiss our--you know.

wonderful american couth - no wonder they/we think our continent to be
barbaric un-civilised at times :-)


tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Allan
> Wafkowski
> Sent: March 11, 2002 11:55 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Re: price of art prints (was re: kyle's fine art)
>
>

>
> If you can come up with a consensus as to what what art is, I'll
> wholeheartedly be for funding it. If you can't, we tell those European
> bozo to kiss our--you know.
>
> Allan
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 01:05 AM, Tim Atherton wrote:
> > Hmm.. the knee jerk reaction  - unfortunately Alan you prove my point.
> >
> > This is where people of many other nations look at N. America and shake
> > their heads.
> >
> > In many places "spending money out of the public coffer on art and
> > artists "
> > as you put it, is seen as a worth while investment and perfectly normal.
>
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