Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] 400 B&W
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:53:21 -0500

Stay cooool, Bob :- )- My comment was indeed written in response to Mark
Rabiner's comment that he likes the control he gets over "real film," as
opposed to chromgenic film.

B. D.




- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jeffery L.
Smith
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:32 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] 400 B&W


I think his reference was to Mark's comment.

At 01:44 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>B.D., what the hell are you talking about?????  I certainly didn't say or
>even imply that chromogenic film wasn't "real".  Only that I couldn't tweak
>exposure/development times with it to get varying contrast, which is
>important to me.
>
>Chromogenic film is real.  Not the point at all.
>
>BK
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: B. D. Colen [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:08 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] 400 B&W
> >
> >
> > Guys, chromogenic film is as much real film as tab films, or
> > "real grain"
> > films. If people are going to continue to play this "real"
> > not real game, in
> > relation to film, digital prints, etc., then maybe we should
> > just say that
> > Daguerreotypes are "real," and everything else is "not real?"
> > Makes just as
> > much sense - maybe even more! ;-)
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of
> > BOB KRAMER
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:19 AM
> > To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us'
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] 400 B&W
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Rabiner [mailto:mark@markrabiner.com]
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] 400 B&W
> > >
> > > I like the control i have over real film (not chromegic)
> >
> > This is the issue for me.  I can't stand the lack of
> > development control
> > with the C41 B&W films.  I use the vuescan software and a
> > Minolta Dimage
> > Scandual II, and the results with tab grain films are extremely good.
> >
> > Bob Kramer
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