Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D.- You can't cross the border from Ontario to Vermont. Thats what was said on t.v.. I hate to say it but you even got it wrong! Canadians say 'eh', not 'ay'. kevin - ---------- >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers" >Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2002, 9:26 AM > > Kevin - The US and Saudi Arabia aren't contiguous either! I don't know if > whoever wrote the piece to which you refer meant Quebec, but someone CAN go > from Ontario to Vt., by any number of routes. > > We may make mistakes in America, but we aren't quite as dumb and incompetent > as you obviously feel we are - just as you aren't a bunch of dumb beer > drinkers who wander around saying 'Ay" all the time either. :-) > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Kevin Argue > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:55 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers" > > > B.D.- you said if they could come from Saudia Arabia to the US why not > Ontario to Vermont. Check you geography book. The borders of the state and > province do not contact one another. In the TV series they say it does. Goes > to show America and some americans no nothing of Canada! > > Kevin >>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >>Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers" >>Date: Sat, Mar 2, 2002, 10:02 PM >> > >> Thanks Tim...Funny to find that reference at the end to Henri Huet's >> photos. I was just going through Requiem this evening after coming back > from >> the movie, and was left thinking once again that the work of Huet, who I > had >> never heard of before seeing Requiem, may just be the absolute best in > that >> book - as good as Larry Burrow's stuff was, and Burrows was pretty > amazing. >> >> As to the movie, I will admit to leaving the theater with tears streaming >> down my cheeks - and that from someone who is no fan of the military, was >> certainly no fan of the Vietnam war, and did not lose any friends during >> that conflict. A VERY strong movie. >> >> B. D> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Tim >> Atherton >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM >> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers" >> >> >> Here is a review by Dirck ("big hair") Halstead - a great photographer, a >> man who will always help you out if he can and UPI Saigon Photo Bureau > Chief >> at the time >> >> >> tim a >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> Subject: A Review of "We Were Soldiers" >>> >>> >>> A Downholder's Review of "We Were Soldiers" >>> >>> The story of the battle of the Ia Drang Valley >>> >>> By Dirck Halstead (SGP) >>> >>> Washington, DC: Feb 28,2002: >>> >>> "We Were Soldiers", the Paramount version of " We Were Soldiers, >>> Once. And Young" by Lt. Gen Harold G Moore (ret) and UPI's Joseph L. >>> Galloway opened >>> to an Army brass filled audience at the Uptown Theatre in Washington >>> last night. >>> >>> The two hour twenty minute film recounts the struggle in November of >>> 1965 between four companies of the newly-formed second regiment, 7th >>> Cavalry (Airmobile) of the U.S. Army and the 66th Regiment of the >>> People's Army of North Vietnam. It was the first time U.S. forces had >>> joined in a battle with a main-force North Vietnamese Regiment. For >>> three days, the U.S. troopers held out against an overwhelming force. >>> >>> On the first evening of the battle, a young UPI reporter, Joe >>> Galloway, joined Lt. Col. Harold Moore at his Command Post in the >>> center of the battle. For the next 48 hours, Galloway would >>> alternate between shooting pictures and firing his M16 in a furious >>> battle for survival. >>> >>> The film, directed and written by Randall Wallace is true in both >>> word and spirit to Galloway and Moore's book. >>> >>> To watch, the film is exhausting. For most of the running time, the >>> viewer is subjected to never-ending rushes of North Vietnamese troops >>> into the camera, as casualties vividly mount on the American side. >>> Wallace wisely chose to cut between the heaviest fighting to scenes >>> of the wives of the troopers receiving telegrams of the cost of the >>> battle >>> Back in Ft. Benning. These scenes help to ground the film. >>> >>> Virtually every word uttered by the troopers in the battle was taken >>> from the book. >>> >>> To the moviegoer who was too young to remember the Vietnam War, and >>> especially this battle, there will be a temptation to think that this >>> is "just another Hollywood War movie, with Mel Gibson as Col. Moore >>> wading into >>> hordes of enemy soldiers. However, I was sitting next to an Army >>> General who had taken part in the real battle, and he was spellbound. >>> When I asked him at the end how he liked it, he said "it was >>> outstanding! It's the first time the movies have gotten a battle >>> right." >>> >>> At one point , actor Barry Pepper, as the young Galloway is stretched >>> out on the ground as enemy fire whips around him. Suddenly Sgt Major >>> Basil Plumley, played in an Academy Award-winning turn by veteran Sam >>> Elliott, towers over him, and says "you can't take no pictures laying >>> face down on the ground, Sonny!" >>> >>> Some of those pictures Galloway took are used in the film. >>> >>> In the three days of battle, the troopers of the 7th Cavalry killed >>> by body count some 1,215 North Vietnamese troops, and captured six. >>> >>> On the American side, 79 were killed, and 121 wounded and missing. >>> >>> The North Vietnamese had lost their first battle of the war. In a >>> bitter sweet moment, the NVA commander, Col. Nguyen Huu An, portrayed >>> by Don Duong, >>> muses as he removes his dead from the battlefield, "what a tragedy ! >>> The Americans have won this battle, now they will feel they can the >>> win the war. In the end it will be the same, but so many will die." >>> >>> Tech credits are superb. Despite the fact that the movie was >>> entirely shot in >>> Georgia and California, Director of Photography Dean Semler captures >>> the feeling of the place and the soldiers on both sides who fought >>> the battle, and a young UPI reporter who witnessed it. >>> >>> >>> Dirck Halstead was the UPI photo bureau chief in Saigon from >>> 1965-1966. He is now the Editor and Publisher of The Digital >>> Journalist at http://digitaljournalist.org >>> >>> >>> To view Henri Huet's photographs from the Ia Drang, go to >>> http://dirckhalstead.org/issue9711/req19.htm >>> >>> -- >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html