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Subject: Re: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers"
From: "Kevin Argue" <kargue@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 22:50:58 -0500

B.D.- You can't cross the border from Ontario to Vermont. Thats what was 
said on t.v.. I hate to say it but you even got it wrong! Canadians say
'eh', not 'ay'.

kevin

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>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers"
>Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2002, 9:26 AM
>

> Kevin - The US and Saudi Arabia aren't contiguous either! I don't know if
> whoever wrote the piece to which you refer meant Quebec, but someone CAN go
> from Ontario to Vt., by any number of routes.
>
> We may make mistakes in America, but we aren't quite as dumb and incompetent
> as you obviously feel we are - just as you aren't a bunch of dumb beer
> drinkers who wander around saying 'Ay" all the time either. :-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Kevin Argue
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:55 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers"
>
>
> B.D.- you said if they could come from Saudia Arabia to the US why not
> Ontario to Vermont. Check you geography book. The borders of the state and
> province do not contact one another. In the TV series they say it does. Goes
> to show America and some americans no nothing of Canada!
>
> Kevin
>>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers"
>>Date: Sat, Mar 2, 2002, 10:02 PM
>>
>
>> Thanks Tim...Funny  to find that reference at the end to Henri Huet's
>> photos. I was just going through Requiem this evening after coming back
> from
>> the movie, and was left thinking once again that the work of Huet, who I
> had
>> never heard of before seeing Requiem, may just be the absolute best in
> that
>> book - as good as Larry Burrow's stuff was, and Burrows was pretty
> amazing.
>>
>> As to the movie, I will admit to leaving the theater with tears streaming
>> down my cheeks - and that from someone who is no fan of the military, was
>> certainly no fan of the Vietnam war, and did not lose any friends during
>> that conflict. A VERY strong movie.
>>
>> B. D>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Tim
>> Atherton
>> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM
>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] MOVIE LEICA SIGHTING - 'We Were Soldiers"
>>
>>
>> Here is a review by Dirck ("big hair") Halstead -  a great photographer, a
>> man who will always help you out if he can and UPI Saigon Photo Bureau
> Chief
>> at the time
>>
>>
>> tim a
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> Subject: A Review of "We Were Soldiers"
>>>
>>>
>>> A Downholder's Review of "We Were Soldiers"
>>>
>>> The story of the battle of the Ia Drang Valley
>>>
>>> By Dirck Halstead (SGP)
>>>
>>> Washington, DC: Feb 28,2002:
>>>
>>> "We Were Soldiers", the Paramount version of  " We Were Soldiers,
>>> Once. And Young"  by Lt. Gen Harold G Moore (ret) and UPI's Joseph L.
>>> Galloway opened
>>> to an Army brass filled audience at the Uptown Theatre in Washington
>>> last night.
>>>
>>> The two hour twenty minute film recounts the struggle in November of
>>> 1965 between four companies of the newly-formed second regiment, 7th
>>> Cavalry (Airmobile) of the U.S. Army and the 66th Regiment of the
>>> People's Army of North Vietnam. It was the first time U.S. forces had
>>> joined in a battle with a main-force North Vietnamese Regiment. For
>>> three days, the U.S. troopers held out against an overwhelming force.
>>>
>>> On the first evening of the battle, a young UPI reporter, Joe
>>> Galloway, joined Lt. Col. Harold Moore at his Command Post in the
>>> center of the battle.  For the next 48 hours, Galloway would
>>> alternate between shooting pictures and firing his M16 in a furious
>>> battle for survival.
>>>
>>> The film, directed and written by Randall Wallace is true in both
>>> word and spirit to Galloway and Moore's book.
>>>
>>> To watch, the film is exhausting. For most of the running time, the
>>> viewer is subjected to never-ending rushes of North Vietnamese troops
>>> into the camera, as casualties vividly mount on the American side.
>>> Wallace wisely chose to cut between the heaviest fighting to scenes
>>> of the wives of the troopers receiving telegrams of  the cost of the
>>> battle
>>> Back in Ft. Benning. These scenes help to ground the film.
>>>
>>> Virtually every word uttered by the troopers in the battle was taken
>>> from the book.
>>>
>>> To the moviegoer who was too young to remember the Vietnam War, and
>>> especially this battle, there will be a temptation to think that this
>>> is "just another Hollywood War movie, with Mel Gibson as Col. Moore
>>> wading into
>>> hordes of enemy soldiers. However, I was sitting next to an Army
>>> General who had taken part in the real battle, and he was spellbound.
>>> When I asked him at the end how he liked it, he said "it was
>>> outstanding! It's the first time the movies have gotten a battle
>>> right."
>>>
>>> At one point , actor Barry Pepper, as the young Galloway is stretched
>>> out on the ground as enemy fire whips around him. Suddenly  Sgt Major
>>> Basil Plumley, played in an Academy Award-winning turn by veteran Sam
>>> Elliott, towers over him, and says "you can't take no pictures laying
>>> face down on the ground, Sonny!"
>>>
>>> Some of those pictures Galloway took are used in the film.
>>>
>>> In the three days of battle, the troopers of the 7th Cavalry killed
>>> by body count  some 1,215 North Vietnamese troops, and captured six.
>>>
>>> On the American side, 79 were killed, and 121 wounded and missing.
>>>
>>> The North Vietnamese had lost their first battle of the war. In a
>>> bitter sweet moment, the NVA commander, Col. Nguyen Huu An, portrayed
>>> by Don Duong,
>>> muses as he removes his dead from the battlefield,  "what a tragedy !
>>> The Americans have won this battle, now they will feel they can the
>>> win the war. In the end it will be the same, but so many will die."
>>>
>>> Tech credits are superb. Despite the fact that the movie was
>>> entirely shot in
>>> Georgia and California, Director of Photography Dean Semler captures
>>> the feeling of the place and the soldiers on both sides who fought
>>> the battle, and a young UPI reporter who witnessed it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dirck Halstead was the UPI photo bureau chief in Saigon from
>>> 1965-1966. He is now the Editor and Publisher of The Digital
>>> Journalist at http://digitaljournalist.org
>>>
>>>
>>> To view Henri Huet's photographs from  the Ia Drang, go to
>>> http://dirckhalstead.org/issue9711/req19.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>
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