Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/02/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]<<doesn't tell us anything other than she drinks her own coffee! :-)>> Based on the coffee I've had in some shops (starts with an s and ends with one, too), this is no small detail. Don't anticipate a series of coffee shops...........just wanted to show that it is possible to shoot in them without being jailed. At least here in Kansas City. Lea - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] Lea PAW week 5 & 6 : B.D. wrote: : >>> Lea, forgive me, but I am going to keep hammering at this... : > : > Paw 5 is a nice shot...but to the viewer it is not a shot of someone : > managing a coffee shop - it is a shot of a woman, persumably a counter : > worker, drinking a cup of coffee. You know that she is the owner because : you : > know the shop and know her. But the person looking at the photo doesn't : know : > it. :-)<<<<< : : The above in response to lea's PAW: : >>> Week 5 is what can happen in a coffee shop when photography is allowed : > http://www.whinydogpress.com/paw5.html<<<< : : Hi B.D. and Lea: : You're right B.D. The coffee shop photograph is a perfect example of the : photographer knowing the facts of whom the subject is and the photograph not : doing the same, showing the facts. Happens all the time when the : photographer gets emotions, facts, feelings etc in the way of what the : picture says or whether it's a good or bad photograph. : : Nothing new here, we've all done it at some time. :-) No one is perfect, : least of all photographers. ;-) : : Example: : Photographer with broken leg in cast whining at editor because editor throws : picture in floor file 13: : : Photog: : "How can you throw that away it's a great picture, that's the moment the : truck hit me and broke my leg!" : : Editor: : "It's out of focus and blurry!" : : Photog: : "So it's only a little bit, but that's when the truck hit me! It's a great : photo of a happening!" : : Editor: : "It's out of focus and blurry!" : : Photog limps away with thoughts of another visually challenged editor who : doesn't have a clue what makes great pictures! : : It's because we have the experience of the real life moment while taking our : pictures, it quite often clouds our judgement in selecting the photo we : think illustrates the situation. : : Lea: : I think if you were in the shop shooting a series on the owner "working" : instead of posing for the camera, you'd capture some very meaningful real : moments in her life and this conversation wouldn't be on the screen. ;-) : : I bet because you have the connection, you could pop in there at a very : busytime and shoot an assignment of, "Moments in the life of a coffee shop : owner" ----- without one posed image ----- and come away with very : meaningful photographs that express the fact ..........." she lets you shoot : all the pictures you want in her coffee shop!" : : What think you? Worth a try? Hope so, as the shot you have is OK from the : exposure/technical side, but doesn't tell us anything other than she drinks : her own coffee! :-) : : ted : : Ted Grant Photography Limited : www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant : : : -- : To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html : - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html