Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/02/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Kindermann / Lisle Kelco
From: John Collier <jbcollier@powersurfr.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 23:31:49 -0700

I have had my TTL back in twice to L-K (passport) for adjustment for user
inflicted reasons. Their service has been quick and good but the vertical
alignment was much better the second time around. My recently purchased M4-2
was CLAed last year by L-K and I must confess to being less than impressed.
I have sent it to Gerry for minor adjustments and a check of L-K's work.

John Collier

> From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
> 
> Lisle Kelco has done some work on my R8's and seem to have excellent and
> timely service.  I don't know how they would do on the older M and screw
> mounts, but they seem to have their act together servicing the recent
> stuff.  I haven't paid for any service there yet, so I don't know how
> expensive they are.
> 
> My new M6 TTL is in at Lisle Kelco now to see if they can do anything about
> the battery consumption.  In may just be me, not the camera.  I mailed it
> to them Friday along with an R8 that needed cleaning.  It will be
> interesting to see how quick they turn it around.
>
> 
> At 12:24 PM 2/7/2002 -0700, John Collier wrote:
>> 
>> I agree one hundred per cent. He always gives great advice and you get to
>> pay in Canadian $ too. I am not kidding about the "voice of doom" stuff
>> though. The first time it happened I was sure he was about to tell me I
>> needed a new shutter or something equally expensive. All he wanted to say
>> was that a gouge (too big to be a scratch) out of the back was NOT
>> repairable and they no longer had new M2 backs on hand. I had not even
>> mentioned the gouge.
>> 
>> He is getting better, especially, after I sent him a SL2 I bought that was
>> in user condition before it was dropped in a creek :-). How do you spell
>> cheap. He CLAed and degunged it and now it works beautifully, looks tough
>> mind you...
>>
>>> From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
>>> 
>>> Gerry has done the CLA's on all my cameras including and M6.  Kindermann
>>> has a fair price and very quick service.
>>> 
>>> Gerry seems far from a collector.  A few times I have sent him lenses or
>>> cameras and he has told me it is really not worth spending the time and
>>> money on such an old lens or camera.  He is right most of the time.  I sent
>>> him an old fixed mount 50mm Summicron that had coating marks and was
>>> slightly fogged.  he told me not to waste my money cleaning it and to just
>>> find a better lens.  I have since sold that lens to a local collector who
>>> is willing to go to the effort of getting it cleaned.  For about what I
>>> sold the lens for and what I would have paid for a cleaning, I have bought
>>> a like new latest version chrome 50mm Summicron on Ebay.  Most of my PAW
>>> has been shot with this new lens.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> At 09:16 AM 2/7/2002 -0700, John Collier wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Every time I send my cameras into Gerry at Kindermann, he always
>> phones with
>>>> the estimate and then informs me, in a voice heavily foreshadowing doom,
>>>> that there is nothing he can do about the terrible cosmetic condition
>> of my
>>>> camera. There is absolutely no way it would even occur to him that you
>> might
>>>> just scratch up the focusing ring and glue it on. The only way he would do
>>>> it is to disassemble the lens and drill the appropriate holes. Big
>> bucks to
>>>> do! He is one of the best Leica techs on the planet and he does not bodge
>>>> things up; a source of great comfort to me and why I send all my work to
>>>> him. So this is where the you in Leica-Users comes in. You do the bodging
>>>> and let Gerry do the soft weeping.
>>>>

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