Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/02/07

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Subject: [Leica] Kindermann / Lisle Kelco
From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 21:00:42 -0400
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020207131556.023deee0@pop.andara.com>

John:

Lisle Kelco has done some work on my R8's and seem to have excellent and 
timely service.  I don't know how they would do on the older M and screw 
mounts, but they seem to have their act together servicing the recent 
stuff.  I haven't paid for any service there yet, so I don't know how 
expensive they are.

My new M6 TTL is in at Lisle Kelco now to see if they can do anything about 
the battery consumption.  In may just be me, not the camera.  I mailed it 
to them Friday along with an R8 that needed cleaning.  It will be 
interesting to see how quick they turn it around.

Regards,

Robert

At 12:24 PM 2/7/2002 -0700, John Collier wrote:
>Hi Robert,
>
>I agree one hundred per cent. He always gives great advice and you get to
>pay in Canadian $ too. I am not kidding about the "voice of doom" stuff
>though. The first time it happened I was sure he was about to tell me I
>needed a new shutter or something equally expensive. All he wanted to say
>was that a gouge (too big to be a scratch) out of the back was NOT
>repairable and they no longer had new M2 backs on hand. I had not even
>mentioned the gouge.
>
>He is getting better, especially, after I sent him a SL2 I bought that was
>in user condition before it was dropped in a creek :-). How do you spell
>cheap. He CLAed and degunged it and now it works beautifully, looks tough
>mind you...
>
>John Collier
>
> > From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@hfx.andara.com>
> >
> > Gerry has done the CLA's on all my cameras including and M6.  Kindermann
> > has a fair price and very quick service.
> >
> > Gerry seems far from a collector.  A few times I have sent him lenses or
> > cameras and he has told me it is really not worth spending the time and
> > money on such an old lens or camera.  He is right most of the time.  I sent
> > him an old fixed mount 50mm Summicron that had coating marks and was
> > slightly fogged.  he told me not to waste my money cleaning it and to just
> > find a better lens.  I have since sold that lens to a local collector who
> > is willing to go to the effort of getting it cleaned.  For about what I
> > sold the lens for and what I would have paid for a cleaning, I have bought
> > a like new latest version chrome 50mm Summicron on Ebay.  Most of my PAW
> > has been shot with this new lens.
> >
> >
> >> At 09:16 AM 2/7/2002 -0700, John Collier wrote:
> >>
> >> Every time I send my cameras into Gerry at Kindermann, he always 
> phones with
> >> the estimate and then informs me, in a voice heavily foreshadowing doom,
> >> that there is nothing he can do about the terrible cosmetic condition 
> of my
> >> camera. There is absolutely no way it would even occur to him that you 
> might
> >> just scratch up the focusing ring and glue it on. The only way he would do
> >> it is to disassemble the lens and drill the appropriate holes. Big 
> bucks to
> >> do! He is one of the best Leica techs on the planet and he does not bodge
> >> things up; a source of great comfort to me and why I send all my work to
> >> him. So this is where the you in Leica-Users comes in. You do the bodging
> >> and let Gerry do the soft weeping.
> >>
>
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