Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/21

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Subject: RE: [Leica] XP-2: True grit?
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:13:58 -0500

The older film was quite what? Are we talking about the same XP-2? From
Ilford? If you found it to be really grainy, as in a "sand painting," I
would suspect some serious problem in either the batch of film, or the

- -----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Arne Helme
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2: True grit?


the XP-2 Super?  The older XP-2 film was quite grainy.  Did you rate and
compare the films at other speeds too, e.g., ISO 200?

- -- Arne

In message <>,
"Peter A. Klein" writes:
>Is XP-2 inherently more grainy than Portra 400 B&W?  I just got a roll of
>XP-2 back from my neighborhood Walgreen's pharmacy's Kodak minilab.  It was
>*very* grainy--more like 3200 film.  I checked the film with a 30x pocket
>microscope, and it is indeed very grainy on the negative--it's not just
>grain aliasing on the scanner.  I'll post a couple of examples in the next
>few days--there were some good shots, even if they look like Navajo sand
>A roll of Portra 400 B&W processed at the same place by the same technician
>a couple of months ago was beautiful, and not grainy at all.  Both films
>were exposed at ISO 400, and the negs don't look underexposed to me.
>Can some failure in the C41 processing cause such grain--exhausted
>solutions, bad temperature control, etc.?  I won't be using that minilab
>again if they can't be consistent.  Convenience is nice, but not if it
>ruins the pictures.  I've been collecting bottles, and will get on the
>Tri-X and Xtol 1:3 bandwagon very soon.
>--Peter Klein
>Seattle, WA
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