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Subject: Re: [Leica] xtol results? Better this time
From: Marc Attinasi <>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:36:44 -0800
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Thanks to everybody that made suggestions and assessments for me.  I 
have come to the conclusion that I simply underdeveloped.  

I had a roll of Neopan 100 ACROS that I shot a couple of days ago and 
decided to try that, but at 1:1 instead or 1:3.  Unfortunately, it is 
cold tonight so room temp is only 66 deg F - I picked 21 minutes as a 
starting point.  The results look very nice - slightly overdeveloped 
this time, but very close to the density range I am used to seeing in my 
negatives - and a range I know I can print.  I'll try the TMAX for 
longer next time and see what I get - 13.5 minutes probably should have 
been 17...

- - marc

ps. I've been trying and experimenting and generally mucking about with 
b&w films and developers for about 20 years now.  I was not asking for a 
'fix' to my development issue, just a sanity check and maybe an idea or 
two to help 'focus' the experiment.

Nathan Wajsman wrote:

>I am not sure that XTOL 1+3 is the ideal solution for pushing film.
>Secondly, the Massive Dev. Chart is a compilation of stuff from film data
>sheets--useful as a starting point but not a substitute for doing your own
>testing, however informal.
>Marc Attinasi wrote:
>>Just out of the darkroom where I processed two rolls of TMAX 400 in XTOL
>>1:3 and the results are surprising.  Having never used XTOL I did not
>>know what to expect.  I used dev times from the Massive Development
>>Chart - 15 minutes for the roll shot at 800 and 13.5 for the one shot at
>>400 - 70deg, agitation every minute by hand.
>>The negs look a little thin, and much flatter than I expected from that
>>film, especialy the pushed roll.
>>Is this normal XTOL behavior, or is something wrong with my times /
>> technique / camera / expectations?
>>Thanks all,
>>- marc
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