Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/08

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Was there Ever ...
From: Mark Cohen <markc@binaryfaith.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:11:23 -0800 (PST)

Hey Gerhard,

For the Ektacolor 160pro from Chile, go to
http://www.kodak.cl/CL/es/professional/color/peliculas/ektacolorPro160.shtml

As for tungsten print film, they (kodak/fuji) might not make it anymore..
The thinking is print papers are WAY more forgiving then Type R or
Ilfochrome papers.. So users can shoot indoors and have the photo printer
correct for the warm indoor tungsten light..

Let me tell you, never trust a one hour printer who tells you that they
can print your indoor pictures w/o a funny hue.. I used to work in 1 hour
labs and you are never guaranteed to get more then adequate results with
trying to correct.. Its kind of like trying to print b/w negs on color
paper... some of them look good, the low contrast ones look green and the
high contrast ones look sepia..

I suspect that since most people who aren't pros shoot their color print
film over a number of days wouldn't like tungsten balanced print film..
could you imagine the pictures from the pool? :) Everything Blue! They
would run to their lab and complain.. (heh.. been there, done that.. no
thank you! (some lady shot Ektachrome 64t thinking the t mean true color..
all outdoors at a family reunion.. it wasn't pretty) They would get 1/2 a
roll that looked good and the rest would suck.,. (more than they normally
would)

I think a lot of people shoot NPS/NPH and the kodak Ektapress films to get
closer to the proper color temp in wierd lighting conditions..

For me, Im sticking with Delta 400 and XTol.. :)

- -Mark



On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Gerhard Paulman wrote:

> Hey Mark,
>
> Thanks for confirming that I'm not totally nuts.  It could have been the 160
> film I used back then.  That rings a bell.  It was just before I bought my
> first Leica.
> All I remember is that it really worked well indoors, and gave a slight
> bluish tint to all outdoor shots.  Not as bad as the yellow orange that you
> get when you use today's negative film indoors though.
> Is that export  to Chile ever brought back here?  I did not find it on
> Kodak.com, BTW.
>
> Gerhard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Cohen" <markc@binaryfaith.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Was there Ever ...
>
>
> >
> >
> > You are all right for the most part..
> >
> > Kodak makes Ektachrome which is slide film (chrome)
> >
> > They also make an Ektacolor, which is Color Print Paper.. (RA4 process)
> > They also have an Ektacolor print neg film (Ektacolor Print 160) But I
> > think its marketed to Chile. :)
> >
> > The older color print film was also labeded as Ektacolor. (Kodak Ektacolor
> > VR 200 for example)
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Gerhard Paulman wrote:
> >
> > > Frank,
> > >
> > > Yes you're right of course.  Actually, all I remember is that that
> Tungsten
> > > film was Ekta something and everything else was Koda ....  I'm talking
> about
> > > over 30 years ago, well 40 actually.
> > >
> > > Gerhard
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net>
> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:22 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Was there Ever ...
> > >
> > >
> > > > -chrome means slide film.    -color means print film
> > > >
> > > > Ektachrome therefore means only slide film.
> > > >
> > > > Frank Filippone
> > > > red735i@earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Gerhard
> > > > Paulman
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:01 PM
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: [Leica] Was there Ever ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > an Ektachrome print film?  My mind is just fading on that one.
> > > >
> > > > Gerhard
> > > >
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