Re: [Leica] Where's Joe?

["Dr. Elliot Puritz" <drpuritz@bellsouth.net>]

Well I guess that is good enough for me Ted...$5,0000 is an awful lot of
money.  Of course, using the R system might have some advantages at times,
but for most pictures the M and Heliar would be simply fine.

Have you had the opportunity to try the 12mm?  Spoken with any who have?

 Elliot
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Where's Joe?


> Dr. Elliot Puritz wrote:
> >> > Have you used the 12 or 15mm from Voightlander on your M Mark?
Wonder
> how
> > inferior the lens really is at hundreds/thousands less. <<<
>
> Hi Elliot,
> I'm not answering for Mark as he does very well on his own.;-)
>
> However, I have used both the R 15 3.5 and used it extensively for quite a
> number of years and it's an extremely fine lens, cuts slide film like a
> razor blade for sharp images.
>
> I've also used the Voitlander M 15mm for two years now and I have
absolutely
> no complaints at all.  It cuts a mean image in a negative or slide to the
> extent that one can project a Voitlander image back to back with a Leica R
> image and have difficulty telling which was shot with which lens.
>
> Now let me clarify this comment by saying, no the cameras were not on a
> tripod snapping printed targets, but the images came from various
> assignments where both cameras were used during the project.
>
> We racked slides and invited several pro photogs over for a viewing and a
> scotch! ;-) To see if casual observers could pick Leica 15 from Voitlander
> 15. We assumed it would be a piece of cake, Leica would shine. Actually it
> was a miserable failure, as they picked more Voitlander images to be Leica
> than the other way around.
>
> So one can assume, that in some cases the lenses, Leica or other wise that
> fit our M's or R's can, under work conditions, create images that are
equal
> to each other, whether we want to believe that or not.
>
> I realize this may shatter the lives of many, "absolutely there is no
other
> lenses than Leica folks.".. but hey,  this is real life use and not
playing
> toy games on a test bench. Now remember, don't get all huffy assed and
start
> fighting back, as it wont make you feel any better and I wont be dissuaded
> from what we've experienced in the work a day world.
> ted
>
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>
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