Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] New leica 15 and zoom lenses!!
From: "Margaret Jeffcoat" <margaret01@excelonline.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:09:35 -0500
References: <FKEMKHBBDEGFGKMBDFMAGEMPFOAA.m.sadat@verizon.net>

I had the new 15 f 2.8 in me hand in NY at the Expo East. I've never look
through any
glass German or Japanese that look that good except for the ill fated 35-70
F2.8 zoom.
I would be very surprised if it was (the new 15) made in Japan.
Cheers Wilber
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From: Mehrdad Sadat <m.sadat@verizon.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:25 PM
Subject: [Leica] New leica 15 and zoom lenses!!


> the local leica rep, at a demo day in town (la) told me that both of these
> lenses will be made by panasonic.!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Mark
> Rabiner
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 5:35 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Leica R lenses German parameters Firewire drive
>
>
> Jim Brick wrote:
> >
> > Via Erwin: Paraphrased: The new 15/2.8 is a Schneider lens re-designed
> > (tweaked) by Leica to Leica specs, thus giving a Leica footprint.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> Jim I was just re reading his Newsletter this morning on that wondering
> if he meant
> Leica quality
> or Leica parameters
>
> I learned in the last year or so that Leica, Zeiss, Schneider,
> Rodenstock, Nikon, Canon all have their set of what I'm calling here
> "parameters" as to which aspect of lens performance to empathize how much.
> We often think of contrast vs resolution by I think Erwin had called
> that simplistic.
>
> I was not sure if the 15 was not considered "good enough" and Leica had
> to give Schneider a good kick in the pants.
> Or if Schneider had simply empathized the wrong "aspects" or
> "parameters" of the lens to have high over others which Leica preferred.
>
> Interesting as here we have Schneider making an "Leica" lens with none
> of the Schneider nomenclature on it like Super Angulon which we find on
> older glass commonly used on a Leica.
>
> I'll admit to have no less awe over Schneider's glass making ability
> than Leitz or Leicas or the other German companies.
> All four German companies: Zeiss, Leica and Schneider and Rodenstock i
> think of in hushed reverence.
>
> I don't know anybody whose got the inside track as to which of this
> group might have a slight upper hand.
> Perhaps an impossible comparison.
> Schneider medium format glass cost more for Rollei 6x6 than Zeiss does.
> That's one straight across reference almost.
> Zeiss glass resells better on a Rolleiflex than Schneider. That's
> history and collecting, not quality.
> And Zeiss does not make large format glass any more or enlarger lenses
> so we can't compare them against Schneider directly in those terms either.
>
> And Leica is the only one of those German companies making glass for
> 35mm cameras.
>
> I just got an Apo Rodagon 75 D optimized at 1:1 for my Viso though. I
> can use that for 6x6 as well!
>
> an enlarger lens which does not enlarge! (much)
>
> an enlarger lens for contract printing; when you don't want to contact
> print.
>
> Or to not be dumb about it: a duplication lens.
>
> I'm interested how it will stack up against my 63mm 2.8 El Nikkor which
> is also a dupe lens but can enlarge a bit more.
>
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Portland, Oregon USA
> http://www.markrabiner.com
>
> If my Lacie Firewire 60GB External Drive is buzzing does that mean it's
> about to crash? It's kind of buzzing. I'm kind of worried. I got it two
> weeks ago and it's been making more noise in the past few days.
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