Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]- - - - adding my 0.2 worth - - - - - there are _snap shots_ - and _snap shots_ - I'd say there is a BIG difference between the two. I'm just glad Leicas are exceptionally good for _them snaps_ Yours Martin Frankly, I have to second Jim. There's a lot of sensitivity on the list, it seems to me, to any sort of criticism unless it's praise. Well, a snap shot is a snap shot is a snap shot. That's not being insulting, it's just being objective. on 12/6/01 2:41 PM, ternahan at ternahan@sonic.net wrote: > As long as the comments are constructive, not destructive...I thought most > of the posts were ....not nice (not by first choice of words). If we use Ted > and Doug's helpful comments and suggestions for improvement as a model, we > would see more images and we'll all be the better for it. > trish > >> From: "SonC (Sonny Carter)" <sonc@sonc.com> >> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:07:06 -0600 >> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Subject: [Leica] Jim's Brickbats was: I commend to your attention >> >> Steve and Brian, >> >> I was at first miffed about Jim Brick's remarks but when he compared >> the PAW project to first one, then to another professional >> photographer who's working on assignment, I realized that he just >> doesn't get it. >> >> The people who shoot PAW are, (I think) people who also have other >> jobs, or commitments, not professionals. They scrimp for their >> cameras, they spend money and time shooting scanning and posting, for >> the love of the craft. >> >> Brick sez that our Nepali vacation guy's work "is every bit as good as >> 95% of PAWs . . ." then says, "I have generally stopped looking at >> web pictures because unless they were >> done at a very high level (good scanner/good Photoshop/good web >> layout/good...) even great photographers look lousy." >> >> So, if he has generally stopped looking, how does he know? And if he >> does look, and "bites his tongue," instead of commenting, why bother >> to comment now on the general state of the PAW in favor of some >> vacation photographs? There are a number of people who comment, not >> always favorably on these pictures, but the comments are always >> welcome. Sure, it feels good when the shot is commended, but if >> there's honest criticism, then it helps us grow as photographers. >> >> And I for one would much rather look at someone's best effort for a >> week than read pages and pages of opinions on the color of the metric >> distance scale on a lens. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sonny >> http://www.sonc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian McCarthy" <straightline@btinternet.com> >> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:05 AM >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: I commend to your attention >> >> >>>> Jim Brick tells us what he thinks: >>>> >>>>> Well... my opinion is that these photographs are every bit as >>>> good as 95% >>>>> of the PAW prints that are deluged on us weekly. >>>> >>>>> Every time I look at the >>>>> PAW's, the "my web site is finally up", the "please look & >>>> comment", etc... >>>>> I have to bite my tongue. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder if I should stop taking pictures, based on the above >> comment. >>>> >>>> sl >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Yes, it does make you think doesn't it!? But then, some of the >> people who >>> make this kind of remark don't seem to be sharing their photos on >> the same >>> basis. The PAW project is not about being a genius and producing >> 'yet >>> another masterpiece' every week - it's about trying and doing your >> best at >>> that time (well it is to me anyway). We do our best with what the >> week >>> offers us and present it - sometimes we are pleased with what we >> present, >>> but others opinions may differ. Sometimes we feel that we are >> putting up >>> something that maybe is not so good, and opinions will still differ. >> The >>> point is that hopefully , we will learn something one way or the >> other from >>> the criticism invoked. >>> >>> I gave up announcing my PAW's on the LUG a long time ago, as I felt >> that it >>> was a waste of time, but I have maintained the project and there are >> still >>> many people around the world who give me their opinions - I find >> them most >>> useful and I have found the PAW thing a very worthwhile pursuit. >>> >>> Keep on PAWing! >>> >>> brian >>> >>> Brian McCarthy >>> brian@imagespace.co.uk >>> www.imagespace.co.uk >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe, see >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html