Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]As long as the comments are constructive, not destructive...I thought most of the posts were ....not nice (not by first choice of words). If we use Ted and Doug's helpful comments and suggestions for improvement as a model, we would see more images and we'll all be the better for it. trish > From: "SonC (Sonny Carter)" <sonc@sonc.com> > Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:07:06 -0600 > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: [Leica] Jim's Brickbats was: I commend to your attention > > Steve and Brian, > > I was at first miffed about Jim Brick's remarks but when he compared > the PAW project to first one, then to another professional > photographer who's working on assignment, I realized that he just > doesn't get it. > > The people who shoot PAW are, (I think) people who also have other > jobs, or commitments, not professionals. They scrimp for their > cameras, they spend money and time shooting scanning and posting, for > the love of the craft. > > Brick sez that our Nepali vacation guy's work "is every bit as good as > 95% of PAWs . . ." then says, "I have generally stopped looking at > web pictures because unless they were > done at a very high level (good scanner/good Photoshop/good web > layout/good...) even great photographers look lousy." > > So, if he has generally stopped looking, how does he know? And if he > does look, and "bites his tongue," instead of commenting, why bother > to comment now on the general state of the PAW in favor of some > vacation photographs? There are a number of people who comment, not > always favorably on these pictures, but the comments are always > welcome. Sure, it feels good when the shot is commended, but if > there's honest criticism, then it helps us grow as photographers. > > And I for one would much rather look at someone's best effort for a > week than read pages and pages of opinions on the color of the metric > distance scale on a lens. > > Regards, > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian McCarthy" <straightline@btinternet.com> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:05 AM > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: I commend to your attention > > >>> Jim Brick tells us what he thinks: >>> >>>> Well... my opinion is that these photographs are every bit as >>> good as 95% >>>> of the PAW prints that are deluged on us weekly. >>> >>>> Every time I look at the >>>> PAW's, the "my web site is finally up", the "please look & >>> comment", etc... >>>> I have to bite my tongue. >>>> >>> >>> I wonder if I should stop taking pictures, based on the above > comment. >>> >>> sl >> >> Steve >> >> Yes, it does make you think doesn't it!? But then, some of the > people who >> make this kind of remark don't seem to be sharing their photos on > the same >> basis. The PAW project is not about being a genius and producing > 'yet >> another masterpiece' every week - it's about trying and doing your > best at >> that time (well it is to me anyway). We do our best with what the > week >> offers us and present it - sometimes we are pleased with what we > present, >> but others opinions may differ. Sometimes we feel that we are > putting up >> something that maybe is not so good, and opinions will still differ. > The >> point is that hopefully , we will learn something one way or the > other from >> the criticism invoked. >> >> I gave up announcing my PAW's on the LUG a long time ago, as I felt > that it >> was a waste of time, but I have maintained the project and there are > still >> many people around the world who give me their opinions - I find > them most >> useful and I have found the PAW thing a very worthwhile pursuit. >> >> Keep on PAWing! >> >> brian >> >> Brian McCarthy >> brian@imagespace.co.uk >> www.imagespace.co.uk >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html