Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIc K Cameras
From: "Dan Post" <>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:03:13 -0500
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Doggone! Another illusion shattered! I thought the "K" meant that it was
worth more because it was made in Kanada!
Dan (T.G.I.F.)Post

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From: "Marc James Small" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: [Leica] IIIc K Cameras

> At 07:43 PM 11/8/01 -0800, Feliciano di Giorgio wrote:
> >Didn't Leica make special "Kalt" versions of LTM cameras (IIIc?) for use
> >on the
> >Eastern Front during the war? I thought the changes to the ball bearings
> >were
> >carried over in to the regular production models, like the IIIf. I'm
> >guessing
> >you would still have to change the luricants though.
> The modifications to the IIIc were mandated NOT by the conditions on the
> Eastern Front but from the conditions in northern Norway but the results
> were the same, the addition of ball-bearing races to the shutter curtain
> rollers in place of the earlier pin-bearings.  These cameras were called
> "K" cameras -- for 'kugellager', or ball-bearings -- and most are so
> behind the serial number.
> Zeiss Ikon also cold-proofed Contax cameras but did so by removing
> lubricants and loosening tolerances.  Many cameras so treated were marked
> internally with a painted "k" but, in this case, it stood for "kaltfest",
> or 'cold-proofed'.
> Marc
>  FAX:  +540/343-7315
> Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir!
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