Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/09/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I agree with you, only - it didn't happen the UN way. And we have to deal with the situation. Martin >I believe a balanced discussion re Mr. Muir's position would require a >revisit of the history that followed the WWII holocaust. The land of >Palestine, with no sovereignty of its own, had most recently been a British >"protectorate". The UN--the very same UN referred to by Mr. >Muir--partitioned that land into two sections, to accommodate a newly formed >state of Israel and a newly formed country of Palestine. This was not >acceptable to the neighbors of the newly formed state of Israel. > >Hugely outnumbering this tiny state, the neighbors (including Jordan, Egypt, >Iraq, Syria, various Arabian "oil states", etc. united and went to war, >fully expecting to complete Hitler's "unfinished business" and drive these >survivors into the sea. They did not succeed. Had they accepted the >original UN partitioning, I do believe the two countries could have been >living in peace. Instead, Israel has lived with neighbors who want nothing >less than its total destruction. > >I will not get into a protracted Arab/Israeli debate. I recognize there is >humanity on both sides. I recognize there are perspectives which place >emphasis differently from my own. But the above historical reminder is >needed for some balance to this discussion, since Israel's current position >keeps getting mentioned in what seems to me to be some veiled justification >for the horrendous hateful assault on the citizens and government of our >United States. > >Respectfully to all the members of this list...........Julian > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alan Hull" <hull@telia.com> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:14 AM >Subject: Re: [Leica] Terror > > >I believe that this discussion is the most important discussion this group >has ever engaged in. This is life and death, and ALL means to dissuade the >US and NATO from blindly lashing out with knee-jerk anger should be used. > >Please Please Please, cut through the grief and somehow touch base with >humanity and try to understand that the white hot hatred that drives suicide >bombers will not be cured by a military response. If your anger is so >intense that you are unable to touch this base then use cold hearted logic >and realise that if the US and NATO escalate this event then the next time >the bombers strike it could be nuclear. Solve the root problem, and this >type of terrorism will go away > >I sincerely hope that my contribution to this topic has not lowered the high >standard of debate that has taken place here. I do not have the education >to take this discussion further. I have spent nine years in the British >military during a time when the primary enemy were terrorists from Northern >Ireland, Malaysia, Borneo, Kenya and the Yemen. I look at my four year old >daughter now and shudder with fear for her. > >Quote from the URL below from Jim Muir of the BBC. >The fact is that for more than five decades, in defiance of countless UN >resolutions and of international law, the Palestinians' land has been >occupied and their rights ignored by Israel, with full diplomatic cover and >open-ended financial and military backing from Washington >End of Quote > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1540000/1540364.s t >m > >Alan > >