Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/09/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
From: "SonC (Sonny Carter)" <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 08:30:59 -0500
References: <53EB67411602D211846900A0C9C7647A0FD79230@mail3.pica.army.mil>

From: "Nguyen, Olivier T
> Sonny,
> I am very proud of them.  I don't know how to make it up for them.
>

Olivier,
With character like you display, I think you may already have made it
up to them.

Regards,
Sonny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonny Carter [mailto:sonc@gmx.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:31 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
>
>
> Olivier,
>
> You must be very proud of your parents.
>
> Regards,
> Sonny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nguyen,  T [AMSTA-AR-CCF]" <onguyen@pica.army.mil>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
>
>
> >
> > sONC,
> > I completely agree with you.  not all janitors are thieves
> or poor people
> > are thieves also not having leica.  I have 2 leicas now.
> one is M6TTL and
> > another is an R8.  I am not a doctor, not a lawyer, or any
> business man at
> > all or professional photographer (i wish one day i would
> be) but i still own
> > leica stuff.
> >
> > It is just depend on how personality of each person to be
> a thieves instead
> > of all poor people or not intelligence.
> >
> > My parents use to work really hard as an assembler and
> janitor to support me
> > 4 years in college (for my room and board + extra money
> for books and food)
> > and they never still anything from anyone.  nor they are
> not intelligence.
> > both of my parents are very educated people.  they could
> not get a job in US
> > because when they came to US, they already old.  instead
> of go school again
> > and fight so hard for more book to retake the degree, they
> sacrify
> > themselves for me and my sisters in order we young kids
> has a better future.
> > Not all poor people are thieves or not intelligence or not
> own a leica.  or
> > LEICA ARE OWN BY HIGH CLASS OR WHAT EVER.  IT IS JUST A
> BEAUTIFUL TOOL FOR
> > SOME ONE WHO LIKE IT.
> > Olivier
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sonny Carter [mailto:sonc@gmx.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:34 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
> >
> >
> > Thanks, B.D.
> >      I earned the money for my first 35mm camera by
> cleaning
> > the floors in stairwells of apartment buildings in
> Germany.
> > It never crossed my "poor dim-witted"  mind to steal  to
> get
> > the camera.
> >     I was not a wealthy ex-pat; my father was a non-com in
> > the Air Force during the Cold War in the early 60's.
> >
> > Regards,
> > SonC
> > http://www.sonc.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mxsmanic wrote:
> > >
> > > The type of people who work cleaning toilets and/or
> > > > steal the property of others tend to be poor and
> > dim-witted,
> > >
> > > Yes, people who work cleaning toilets and who out of
> > desperation steal
> > > the property of others tend to be poor, but to suggest
> > that they are
> > > dim-witted because they are poor or clean toilets is a
> > truly repulsive,
> > > vile, classist thing to say that tells us a great deal
> > about you.
> > >
> > > There are plenty of people on this list who at one time
> or
> > another
> > > worked at jobs that were the equivalent of cleaning
> > toilets, or had
> > > parents or grandparents who did.
> > >
> > > Just who the hell do you think you are, Anthony, to make
> > this kind of
> > > statement. Boy, was Kyle on the mark when he pointed out
> > that there are
> > > people who think that they are somehow "special" because
> > they own
> > > Leicas.
> > >
> > > B. D.
> > >
> >
>

Replies: Reply from Dave Hillman <dave@hillmanimages.com> (Re: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?)
In reply to: Message from "Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF]" <onguyen@pica.army.mil> (RE: [Leica] lower classes don't use leicas?)