RE: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica

["Steve Unsworth" <mail@steveunsworth.co.uk>]

I seem to remember that there was a guy (Bert Hardy?) who photographed for
Picture Post in the UK - this was a popular photo mag like Life or Time -
who once argued with his editor that it was the photographer not the camera
that made the photographs. So the editor gave him a box brownie and told him
to use that. He returned with one of the magazines most famous photographs
of a girl in a polka dot dress at the seaside.

Steve

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ted Grant
Sent: 29 August 2001 02:04
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica


Mike Gil wrote:
>>I can't believe they wouldn't be interested in
> making more money from high quality posters from the
> shoots, this must really irk the bottom line, but the
> swimsuit issue people are a little weird.  I don't
> think the P&S can make decent poster sized
> enlargement.  Or can they?<<<<

Mike me old son.
They really don't give a flying hoop how the pictures are taken as long as
it sells the magazine! :-)

Hell if the guy could shoot it with a box brownie from the earliest model
created, they'd be as happy as all get out, as long as the sweet ladies in
near skinless swim suits showed near all and sold a zillion issues of the
magazine!

It's called the "bottom line" not photography by whatever equipment used.
ted





Ted Grant Photography Limited
www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gil" <dtt2150@yahoo.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Dave Beckerman has switched to Leica


> Please don't make us, use Holga's.  Have you seen some
> of this stuff.  I think seeing light leaks into the
> frame is not a cool thing.  Or the other half dozen
> random effects created by this plastic camera.  Most
> pictures taken with a Holga look like they accidently
> took off the top of the film developing can before the
> film was fixed, smeared vaseline on the lens and used
> the wrong lens hood.  HCB would not be HCB with a
> Brownie, imagine him showing a portfolio full of
> technically weak photographs to an editor.
>
> Yeah David Burnett used a Holga, who wouldn't like to
> pull a fast one on their clients like that or not,  is
> it the camera or the photographer.  I guess his Mamiya
> sponsorship must of ended. I would say it has to be a
> good percentage photographer and maybe a good
> percentage camera.  Please don't give me 1% cameras.
> Let me keep my Leica's.
>
> Yeah, yeah, I know their is a guy who shoots SI bikini
> shots with a point and shoot.  This is the exception
> to the rule not the rule, does it matter what camera
> he used to photograph swimsuits, when they are only
> tiny pictures so to speak.  SI should really fire this
> guy, >
> Mike Gil
>
>
> --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ted Grant wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Is it going to make him a better photographer?
> > Wait and see, as the
> > > equipment doesn't see the magic unless the
> > photographer does in the first
> > > place....
> >
> > THAT is the bottom line. HCB would have been HCB
> > with a Brownie followed
> > by a Pentax. And you would still be Ted Grant even
> > if we forced you to
> > use nothing by EOS1ns, or, Rebels, for that matter.
> > They're tools,
> > damnit, and a really good cabinet maker can manage
> > to produce some
> > pretty spiffy furniture with some pretty mediocre
> > tools. Sure, having
> > "the best" tools - for you - really helps. But if
> > you haven't got the
> > eye and heart/brain, fugedaboutit...
> >
> > B. D.
>
>
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