Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Photography in Saudi Arabia
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@istate.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:49:18 -0500
References: <3B79788400004D3A@mail.san.yahoo.com> <0a1d01c129c3$e673e100$6afa0441@laurelhome>

I think I would be forced to leave my cameras at home. This would give me piece
of mind. I would not have to worry about becoming an international news story.
Why bother if you are not sure. Too risky.

Jim Laurel wrote:

> I spent the better part of this year photographing in Muslim countries
> (Morocco, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan and Turkey).  The Koran prohibits
> images of living creatures, which is why Islamic architecture generally
> features geometric patterns rather than representations of animals or
> people.  In fact, in many places around the world that have been conquered,
> occupied or otherwise influenced by Muslims, you often see the faces
> scratched off historic paintings and frescoes.  This is not a criticism,
> just an observation.
>
> However, as we all know, it is difficult to make generalizations,
> particularly about the Islamic world, which is very diverse.
>
> We found many people who were more than willing to be photographed.  Men
> would often be open to having their picture taken.  Women are almost always
> taboo subjects unless you ask first.  We asked and, on many occasions, were
> granted permission.  Surreptitious street photrgraphy of the type we like
> here on the LUG is generally frowned upon, so be careful.  I did quite a bit
> of it and, particularly in Syria and Iran, was cursed and shooed away
> several times.  My technique on the street was to simply go about taking
> pictures, smile at people openly when they catch you, wave...just be
> friendly.  If someone doesn't want thier photo taken, you will know it.
> Back away quickly in a humble, respectful manner.  Perhaps even approach
> them directly, shake hands and apologize.  I met plenty of nice people this
> way!  But again, I generally shoot first and ask forgivness later, if
> necessary.  The policies for photographing inside mosques varies, so be sure
> to ask first.  Some may allow it, but no photos of certain shrines, etc.
> Usually, if they are really serious about no photos, there will be signs.
>
> I have no experience in Saudi, but my guess would be similar to Iran in
> terms of level of strictness.  However, the Saudis, like the Jordanians and
> Syrians are Sunni while the Persians are Shia, and I must admit to ignorance
> about the more subtle cultural differences with regard to photographs.
>
> One thing worth mentioning is that the Iranians are incredible shutterbugs!
> They love to travel around thier country, taking pictures of themselves and
> people they meet.  They burn film like crazy, often in vintage Zenit SLRs or
> old Russian rangefinders!  We were always being asked to be photographed!
>
> Don't believe the propoganda that the US State Dept puts out about the
> Middle East and Muslim countries in general.  I have been to the ME twice
> now, and find it a delightful place to travel.  Never once have I felt
> threatened.  Just try to respect the local culture and be friendly with
> people.  Iran is the best of all...hands-down the friendliest people I have
> ever met in the world.
>
> Best Regards,
> --Jim Laurel
> http://www.spectare.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Vicinanza" <jason@futurafish.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:28 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Photography in Saudi Arabia
>
> > I will be working in Saudi Arabia for a couple of days next week. Although
> > ive worked in the Middle East before ive never been to Saudi.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice re photography in the region. I don?t suppose
> > street photography is big over there and could possible land me in a lot
> > of hot water. Should I even bother? Any advice appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jason Vicinanza
> >
> >
> >
> >

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