Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] salago had help from ELEKTRONIKZ
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:01:54 -0400
References: <20010811210555.LSXR22605.femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[65.1.114.25]>

Come on, Henry - In the first place, no one - so far - has been so
stupid has to write something such as you jokingly wrote...In the second
place, I sure don't worship photographers - no matter how good they may
be - nor are any my "heros..."

B. D.

Henry Ambrose wrote:
> 
> Arrrgh !!!!
> 
> Soon, someone will write:
> 
> "I am going first thing Monday morning and buying the same gear as
> Salgado, (HCB, EWS, whoever) then my pictures will be as good as his."
> 
> Granted, you are talking about photography but isn't it time to leave off
> the hero worship?
> 
> Go make pictures and feel better.
> 
> Henry
> if my minivan had a 500 hp V8 it would beat your BMW
> if frogs had wings --------
> 
> >DR. BLACK TAPE RESPONDS by saying that what you note is true....Salgado
> >does have the technological advantage...although I doubt his exposures
> >come from simply automatic metering...;-)....And HCB used Ms as well as
> >earlier IIIs....and he had the "advantage" of the M
> >summilux.....AND....the 3200 films are certainly an advantage in terms
> >of capturing the otherwise uncapturable, but they sure aren't any
> >advantage in terms of image quality....just my .01 cent worth...:-)
> >
> >
> >
> >Kyle Cassidy wrote:
> >>
> >> dr. blacktape said:
> >>
> >> >I happen to think that Salgado is, from a technical
> >> >standpoint, much better than HCB. [snip] I often think that it's harder
> >> >to find an HCB image that is perfectly exposed, and perfectly in focus,
> >> >than it is one which is not. In fact, a LUGer whom I see very frequently
> >> >'in the flesh,' often kids me about my 'worrying' about focus and
> >> >exposure, saying, "look at the work of HCB." He's kidding. Sort of.
> >>
> >> though he didn't take into consideration that HCB was using a leica III,
> >> which, AFIK, is about as easy to take a photo with as a hollowed out
> >> watermellon with a cork in the front and a bit of photo paper sticky
> >> taped in the back ... salago is using _three_ leica R6's, SLR's with
> >> automagic metering which are much easier to focus. salago also has years
> >> of other advantages to use -- D3200 (which he says he's pushed to 12,800
> >> with excellent results), as well as f 1.4 and faster lenses, etc etc etc.
> >> i'm not taking a stand on who's better, i'm just saying that salago has
> >> opportunities and technologies that HCB didn't.
> >>
> >> my .02, take it for what it's worth.
> >>
> >> kc

In reply to: Message from Henry Ambrose <henryambrose@home.com> (Re: [Leica] salago had help from ELEKTRONIKZ)