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Subject: Re[2]: [Leica] Salgado - Simply The Best?? Talk amongst yourselves
From: Bob Walkden <bob@web-options.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:34:25 +0100
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Hi,

I think it's a mistake to try and judge photojournalists by artistic
standards. They're different conversations.

Secondly, good/better/best is probably impossible to define, so any
talking amongst ourselves would be merely swapping opinions.

Thirdly, even to agree on a useful definition of documentary
photography would be quite an achievement.

Thirdly (bis), is he the best ever? Er, I'll let you know at the end of
infinity. Best so far? Better than HCB? Capa? McCullin? Who cares?
What's the point of comparing?

- ---

 Bob  

mailto:bob@web-options.com

Wednesday, August 01, 2001, 8:26:27 PM, you wrote:


> Seriously....

> Is Sabastio Salgado, from an artistic/technical standpoint, The Best
> documentary photographer/photojournalist alive today. Is he, perhaps, by
> the same standards, the best Ever?

> B. D.
> and Dr. Blacktape



> Bob Walkden wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I went to see it in Brussels on Saturday.
>> 
>> He's God, that's how he drums up the mist and haze. Either that or he
>> shoots into the light quite early in the morning. In many cases it's
>> not mist or haze, but fires - his subjects don't usually have gas or
>> electricity to cook by. Outside the large towns in Africa, and I
>> assume elsewhere, it's quite normal in my experience for people to have
>> a small fire going outside their home all the time for cooking and
>> heating water. In Ethiopia this is often in a metal container thing
>> which they can carry from place to place. This is why you see so many
>> women bent double, crippling themselves carrying enormous bundles of
>> firewood. In some areas there are also a lot of charcoal burners on the
>> go permanently.
>> 
>> Imo the skies are not dark enough to be red-filtered. I think he
>> shoots without filtered and burns in in the darkroom.
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>>  Bob
>> 
>> mailto:bob@web-options.com
>> 
>> Wednesday, August 01, 2001, 5:19:37 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> > I just got back from visiting the Sebastião Salgado "Migrations" exhibit at
>> > the ICP. It made me feel very very humble. I expected great but not soooo
>> > great! If at all possible try to see it if you have not yet done so.
>> 
>> > The thing I don't know is how he always manages to drum up some haze or mist
>> > in the distance.
>> 
>> > Brent Dorsett --- NYC

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